4.6 miles
Distance
1,105 ft
Climb
-1,103 ft
Descent
1,847 ft
High Point
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Fiver's Are Back.

It's that time of year again, the return of the Fivers. To kick off the season FWS #1 is presented by Obession Bikes and the Lynn Valley Legion. After your three stages of enduro fun on Fromme it's down to the Legion in Lynn Valley for apres.

Sign in starts in the Fromme parking lot at 5:45 pm and runs till 6:45.

New this year is a cap of 200 riders. This should ensure we get everyone through the course before dark.

Route.

Stage 1: Floppy Bunny
Stage 2: Warden's Trail
Stage 3: Crinkum Crankum, Kirkford, Cedar Trail, Upper Griffen, Middle Griffen and finish on King of the Shore.

Detailed Description
2018 FWS - Presented by Obession Bikes and Lynn Valley Legion is a 5 mile expert race route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a moderate overall physical rating. This route includes 20 trails. This route climbs 1,105 ft with a max elevation of 1,847 ft then descends -1,103 ft.
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53 Reviews & Comments

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marclangasque (Oct 15, 2022 at 3:24)
Trail Kirkford
Good trace! Not too difficult and really fun!
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drdbnd (Aug 15, 2022 at 8:34)
Trail Kirkford
Resent gold dirt work has really improved the trail. Running best it’s been in years. Thanks to Sarah, Markus, and Thomas for their hard work.
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Pato76 (Jul 24, 2022 at 22:53)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Watch out at the bottom of the second ladder (at entrance) a big puddle hole scour that will harsh your fork. Still rideable but if you rode it before and your are not comfortable with such a hole check it before sending it.
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cbvan (Jul 16, 2022 at 11:58)
this is intended as a climbing trail onky
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NikkiA (Jul 9, 2022 at 13:44)
Trail Kirkford
Thanks to the crew for all of the fresh trail work. It's running great!
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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 19:24)
From looking at the really rocky sections I thought they would be really bumpy but, if you go at speed they are actually quite smooth
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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 14:33)
Trail Kirkford
This trail had some REALLy tight berms that felt like they were dug into the ground
the dirt walls go up near your shoulders at some parts
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corerider (Oct 11, 2021 at 18:18)
Trail Kirkford
How this is still rated a black diamond is beyond me. The endless switchbacks are a waste of good vertical that the old trail had in spades.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:09)
Trail Kirkford
Tight switchbacks. Good trail to learn bike control on and is a pretty chill trail excluding the log ride.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:07)
One of the best trails on fromme. Steep rock switchbacks and at the end, there is a fun wooden ladder part.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 25, 2021 at 16:36)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Very light black, but good trail nonetheless. Good features to progress on. Good trail for people progressing from blue to blacks or a warmup.
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liamdubs (Jun 4, 2021 at 23:02)
Trail Kirkford
I rode this trail a lot before I saw the optional line just before the log ride. I recommend you keep your eye out for it!
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Sterlingmarchand88 (Apr 17, 2021 at 17:56)
Trail Floppy Bunny
I just started riding this week and did two runs on this today! I had to walk sections since I’m super new but loved that there were easier options for me to test out as a newer rider. Felt really accomplished when I rode out 85% of the trail and had a blast testing myself on it. Can’t wait to keep progressing my skills up there and learning to hit some of the higher trails
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zikkidee (Apr 11, 2021 at 19:45)
Is nobody going to ignore the fact that the photo at the top of this page is very clearly NOT roadside attraction? Lol
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zikkidee (Apr 11, 2021 at 19:45)
Is nobody going to ignore the fact that the photo at the top of this page is very clearly NOT roadside attraction? Lol
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brenthillier NSMBA (Apr 12, 2021 at 7:59)
Then flag it!
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brenthillier NSMBA (Apr 12, 2021 at 7:59)
Then flag it!
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zikkidee (Apr 17, 2021 at 22:45)
I did, thanks for reminding me Smile
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zikkidee (Apr 17, 2021 at 22:45)
I did, thanks for reminding me Smile
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Chenzone (Apr 8, 2021 at 17:02)
Trail Kirkford
The start of the trail is a lot of fun why so many switchbacks? That's just a waste of terrain.
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Nickapm (Feb 28, 2021 at 23:44)
Did this my first day mountain biking! Great track very fun! If you take it slow enough anyone can do it! I did walk one section but other than that was a blast!
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MichaelDavidKendrick (Aug 15, 2020 at 15:13)
Trail Floppy Bunny
this trail is awesome. i love how it’s so accessible because you don’t have to climb to the top. and i also like how it’s beside bobsled. i like doing a couple laps of bobsled and floppy bunny
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ranchitup (Jul 22, 2020 at 22:30)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Awesome trail. Very similar in difficulty to Espresso. Comical that this is the same difficulty rating as Bookwus.
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ship-it-fed-ex NSMBA (Jul 22, 2020 at 23:28)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Sometimes 1-2 features can make a trail rated the way it is. Realistically this should be a blue with black options. Waving on the side of caution and liability I think the black rating is just fine. Hope you like it.
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Senduuuuur (Jul 14, 2020 at 13:17)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Love this trail! Taught me how to ride tech!
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ShannonHalliday (Jul 12, 2020 at 18:46)
Found my new favorite trail
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 20:07)
Great blue tech trail, if you have done trails like bobsled and your wondering what some rocks and roots feel like I would recommend this trail as its kinda XC and not too steep but still lots of fun. Just be weary of going to middle griffen as it isnt in that good of condition now a days and has some very tight corners and even a non-roll drop(which you dont usually see on blue trails but is clearly indicated by the huge amount of scrape marks from people's gears and pedals). I would recommend taking a right and going down king of the shore if you are a more beginner rider.
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:59)
Trail Kirkford
Awesome trail, some steep and techy parts but also alot of really nice flow and LOTS of tight corners. Great front break and cornering practice and honestly cant wait to ride it again!
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:57)
Awesome trail but beware of tight, rocky and sometimes quite steep corners(not very blue votes aside). Still overall sick trail and great for getting better at rocky corners! Most of the other TTFs have a ride around.
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JTJ10 (Apr 13, 2020 at 11:25)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Don't know if i would rate the trail blue as there are a few parts that are a little techy and steep(especially at the start if you are used to trails like bobsled) but for sure a fun entry level black thats a small taste of whats to come higher up the mountain. If you are a less experienced rider like I am getting into black diamond trails and trying to improve
or just wondering what a soft black trail looks like on fromme this trail is great, just make sure you know where the optional features are so you dont go down them accidentally.

All around an awesome trail perfect for building up skill level through optional and mandatory features that arnt too hard and are safe aswell as a great quick warm up run before the long climb!
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bboyshredder (Mar 23, 2020 at 16:16)
It's not really a blue should be a black if you try to climb up it.
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curvedwallride (Mar 15, 2020 at 11:59)
Icy half way through.
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ridestuff (Nov 11, 2019 at 21:39)
Trail Kirkford
F*cking crazy trail! I’ll be dizzy till I ride it again...
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Skooks (Jul 23, 2019 at 7:15)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Cougar and cub on lower floppy. Be careful!
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:48)
Trail Kirkford
This is a good trail to learn to corner on a bike. And its awesome.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:46)
Awesome if you like ladders and flowy but rocky corners !
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HeinousShanous (Apr 28, 2019 at 17:53)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Super fun trail, some relatively easy and fun jumps and drops, great way to warmup and have a bit of fun before the climb
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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:20)
Managed to clear as much of it as I could find. Thank Odin for tubeless tires tho Smile
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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:19)
Just a heads up all. There’s a significant amount of broken glass spread out on Kirkford beginning approx 20 feet after the initial wood roll-in. I’d like to think it wasn’t intentional but it came in a variety of colours and spread quite neatly.
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KevinStafford (Jul 19, 2018 at 19:50)
Trail Kirkford
I think I just found my new favorite trail
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desmondhowl (Sep 25, 2017 at 10:18)
Trail Floppy Bunny
THis trail rules. As a newer rider it has some nice features that are helping me progress as a rider. I like that the small drops have clear landings. As i grow more comfortable I can try more difficult ones up the hill. Thanks to the builder.
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ship-it-fed-ex NSMBA (Sep 25, 2017 at 17:23)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Glad you like it! Exactly why I built it like that! Keep the progression going!!

Pat
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chris-mcintyre (Sep 24, 2017 at 17:02)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Really fun, fast flow trails with lots of super fun drops and jumps! It would be awesome to have a jump/drop line once you get to the pedal section at the end but it’s great the way it is!
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Super chill flow/jump line. Easy and accessible.
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WilliamCornock (Jul 28, 2017 at 18:52)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Just did this one for the first time to day and loved it. All the optionals are great as I'm not too experienced and am trying to improve my skills. Seems like a good trail for progression.
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Sharonb (Sep 23, 2016 at 20:37)
Trail Floppy Bunny
The trail was originally called green tunnel, a fun fast loamy trail that was easy and fun. Continued use and rain made it the nasty chunder it was. Someone went in and built a bunch of ghetto stunts.

Pat has been working hard to put it back to the easy gentle trail it originally was.

Not quite as natural, but what do you expect after years or use and weather.
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rvass (Sep 23, 2016 at 17:24)
Trail Floppy Bunny
There are so many gnarly trails. People put hard work into those trails. Dont complain just keep pedalling to grannie pipeline ladies oilcan. Gota be something for everyone. I like gnarly trails too. Thats why i go up higher but im not gona rip someone who put all that effort in. Go ride floppy for 1.5mins and go back up for the rest of your ride. No pleasing people on the shore anymore
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an3a (Sep 23, 2016 at 12:27)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Guys, please stop throwing so much dirt at the trail. I loved the before last upgrade (new entrance), but the very last one was too much. Just flowy now, no more gnarl..
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ship-it-fed-ex NSMBA (Sep 23, 2016 at 12:47)
Trail Floppy Bunny
Thanks for the positive feedback. I will be following my vision I've had for the trail, I've invested 5 years into this trail and I can't please everyone. We have plenty of harder trails up the mountain that are much rougher and have the experience you are looking for.
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ParkerJonesmtb (Nov 27, 2015 at 15:54)
its pretty much a shortcut
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CRich78 (May 1, 2015 at 19:20)
Trail Floppy Bunny
New entrance and drop are awesome! Looking forward to seeing what's in store for the old jumps.
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adove (Oct 27, 2014 at 10:39)
A good amount of work was done on October 26th by the Lynn Valley Bikes/NSMBA TAP volunteers at the bottom intersection with Lower Griffen. Very nice for climbing now!
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Route Sections

1 Stage 1
  • 2,723 ft distance
  • 38 ft climb
  • -218 ft descent
2 Stage 2
  • 899 ft distance
  • 97 ft climb
  • 0 ft descent
3 Stage 3
  • 2 miles distance
  • 46 ft climb
  • -887 ft descent

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  • Primary Activity
    Mountain Bike
  • Difficulty rating
    Black Diamond
  • Route Type
    Loop
  • Bike type
    AM
  • Direction
    One Direction
  • Physical rating
    Moderate
  • Ridelogs
    68
More Stats for 2018 FWS - Presented by Obession Bikes and Lynn Valley Legion mountain bike route
  • Altitude min
    986 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,129 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,135 ft
  • Grade max
    -65.8%
  • Grade min
    44.7%
  • Distance climb
    3 miles
  • Distance down
    2 miles
  • Distance flat
    522 ft
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