2.4 miles

Distance

66 ft

Climb

-1,460 ft

Descent

2,540 ft

High Point

Segment 1: 7th secret

7th Secret is an all-weather, heavily armoured bike trail flowing from just before the seventh switch-back on mountain hwy back to the sixth switch back between Pipeline and Expresso. The few ladders, bridges, jumps and log rides are easier than you might at first expect, but sometimes come at you by surprise, so you may want to go easy on your first descent. The more difficult stuff mostly has easier workarounds.

Segment 2: Leppard
Short XC Rolling contour trail that has lots of pedalling and tight twisty technical sections on an armoured trail bed.

Segment 3: Crinkum Crankum
Crinkum Crankum starts with a series of tight technical switchbacks, then descends a number of steep and often slippery ramps.

Segment 4: Lower Area
Tight, twisty turns flow at you one after the other. Optional wood roll downs and even a log ride at the end offers a little extra to the advanced rider.

SUMMARY:
This is an awesome route. Perfectly balanced finishing off the hard parts with something all little more relaxed. Although Crinkum Crankum can get pretty sketchy in the wet the rest of the trails are just fine in the wet weather. Overall this is a fun route for an intermediate bike looking for a fun descent.

Detailed Description

4k Fromme descent is a 2 mile moderately popular expert route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a moderate overall physical rating. This route includes 10 trails. This route climbs 66 ft with a max elevation of 2,540 ft then descends -1,460 ft.

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49 Reviews & Comments

Score Time Route Post Comment

BikingMama777 (Mar 14, 2023 at 9:21)

Trail Kirkford

A bit of relief,after Crinkum, lol!

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BikingMama777 (Mar 14, 2023 at 9:20)

Trail Crinkum Crankum

This trail tested my resolve! Very techy (like a lot of trails here) and lots of tight switchbacks. I am new-ish to dh riding so this tested my mettle. Will return to conquer it!

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BikingMama777 (Mar 14, 2023 at 9:17)

Trail Roadside Attraction

Just because it's a green trail doesn't mean it isn't fun! Lots of little rollers and a semi-skinny for newer riders to practice on.

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ruminates (Nov 23, 2022 at 20:08)

Trail 7th Secret

still snow free

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tadamszz5 (Nov 9, 2022 at 13:58)

Trail Leppard

Snow at the trail head, but rideable.

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marclangasque

(Oct 15, 2022 at 3:24)

Trail Kirkford

Good trace! Not too difficult and really fun!

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drdbnd

(Aug 15, 2022 at 8:34)

Trail Kirkford

Resent gold dirt work has really improved the trail. Running best it’s been in years. Thanks to Sarah, Markus, and Thomas for their hard work.

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NikkiA

(Jul 9, 2022 at 13:44)

Trail Kirkford

Thanks to the crew for all of the fresh trail work. It's running great!

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northshoregurl

(May 30, 2022 at 1:23)

Trail 7th Secret

It is soooo worth the climb. What a sweet trail.

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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 19:24)

Trail Crinkum Crankum

From looking at the really rocky sections I thought they would be really bumpy but, if you go at speed they are actually quite smooth

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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 14:33)

Trail Kirkford

This trail had some REALLy tight berms that felt like they were dug into the ground
the dirt walls go up near your shoulders at some parts

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corerider (Oct 11, 2021 at 18:18)

Trail Kirkford

How this is still rated a black diamond is beyond me. The endless switchbacks are a waste of good vertical that the old trail had in spades.

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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:09)

Trail Kirkford

Tight switchbacks. Good trail to learn bike control on and is a pretty chill trail excluding the log ride.

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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:07)

Trail Crinkum Crankum

One of the best trails on fromme. Steep rock switchbacks and at the end, there is a fun wooden ladder part.

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Mcyeetus (Sep 25, 2021 at 16:40)

Trail 7th Secret

My favorite trail on fromme. Such a good mix of tech, features, and flow. Awesome trail worth the climb for sure!

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colchilibeck

(Aug 21, 2021 at 11:39)

Trail 7th Secret

Really amazing trail. I Ben in the wet there is still lots of grip.
A note to fast riders, don’t try passing slower riders while they are moving through techy/rocky steep turns. It ruins the experience when you bail because someone decides to blow by you. Just give a shout and pass when safe to do so!! We are all there to have fun. Keep those maneuvers for a race day!

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Wesmacaulay

FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 23:44)

Trail 7th Secret

Rock work is astonishing. I can’t even think of all the hours of work put into the construction of this trail. Epic.

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liamdubs

(Jun 4, 2021 at 23:02)

Trail Kirkford

I rode this trail a lot before I saw the optional line just before the log ride. I recommend you keep your eye out for it!

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zikkidee (Apr 11, 2021 at 19:45)

Trail Roadside Attraction

Is nobody going to ignore the fact that the photo at the top of this page is very clearly NOT roadside attraction? Lol

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brenthillier

NSMBA (Apr 12, 2021 at 7:59)

Trail Roadside Attraction

Then flag it!

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zikkidee (Apr 17, 2021 at 22:45)

Trail Roadside Attraction

I did, thanks for reminding me

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vinnie03

(Apr 8, 2021 at 17:02)

Trail Kirkford

The start of the trail is a lot of fun why so many switchbacks? That's just a waste of terrain.

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Nickapm

(Feb 28, 2021 at 23:44)

Trail Crinkum Crankum

Did this my first day mountain biking! Great track very fun! If you take it slow enough anyone can do it! I did walk one section but other than that was a blast!

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Dannyjean

(Aug 3, 2020 at 11:50)

Trail 7th Secret

Absolute stellar trail. Worth that little extra climb FOR SURE

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ShannonHalliday (Jul 12, 2020 at 18:46)

Trail Crinkum Crankum

Found my new favorite trail

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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 20:07)

Trail Upper Griffen

Great blue tech trail, if you have done trails like bobsled and your wondering what some rocks and roots feel like I would recommend this trail as its kinda XC and not too steep but still lots of fun. Just be weary of going to middle griffen as it isnt in that good of condition now a days and has some very tight corners and even a non-roll drop(which you dont usually see on blue trails but is clearly indicated by the huge amount of scrape marks from people's gears and pedals). I would recommend taking a right and going down king of the shore if you are a more beginner rider.

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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:59)

Trail Kirkford

Awesome trail, some steep and techy parts but also alot of really nice flow and LOTS of tight corners. Great front break and cornering practice and honestly cant wait to ride it again!

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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:57)

Trail Crinkum Crankum

Awesome trail but beware of tight, rocky and sometimes quite steep corners(not very blue votes aside). Still overall sick trail and great for getting better at rocky corners! Most of the other TTFs have a ride around.

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curvedwallride (Mar 15, 2020 at 11:59)

Trail Crinkum Access

Icy half way through.

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ridestuff

(Nov 11, 2019 at 21:39)

Trail Kirkford

F*cking crazy trail! I’ll be dizzy till I ride it again...

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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:57)

Trail 7th Secret

Awesome rocky trail . worth the climb , but some berms are beat up.

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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:48)

Trail Kirkford

This is a good trail to learn to corner on a bike. And its awesome.

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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:46)

Trail Crinkum Crankum

Awesome if you like ladders and flowy but rocky corners !

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scrisini

(Jul 13, 2019 at 0:49)

Trail Leppard

What an awesome flowy trail ! A must !

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martyzaleski

(Jun 5, 2019 at 11:56)

Trail Leppard

Fresh trail work in the mid-section this past weekend by Pete and BGC Engineering, just in time for this week's Fiver.

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crashelman

(Sep 14, 2018 at 11:25)

Trail 7th Secret

Awesome trail in wet weather! Epic amount of armour and nothing too sketchy. Great start to Crinkum and Kirkford

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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:20)

Trail Crinkum Access

Managed to clear as much of it as I could find. Thank Odin for tubeless tires tho

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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:19)

Trail Crinkum Access

Just a heads up all. There’s a significant amount of broken glass spread out on Kirkford beginning approx 20 feet after the initial wood roll-in. I’d like to think it wasn’t intentional but it came in a variety of colours and spread quite neatly.

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KevinStafford (Jul 19, 2018 at 19:50)

Trail Kirkford

I think I just found my new favorite trail

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georgeshumway (Jun 30, 2018 at 20:00)

Trail 7th Secret

Anyone know how this trail compares in terms of difficulty with expresso?

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nwareing (Jan 26, 2019 at 18:08)

Trail 7th Secret

Expresso is easier

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MKBERGEY1 (Jun 28, 2018 at 14:01)

Trail 7th Secret

7th is running so sweet ! ????????

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chris-mcintyre

(Sep 24, 2017 at 16:44)

Trail 7th Secret

One of the most if not the most amazing trail on the mountain! Definitely worth going up and shredding all the way down to Kirkford! This trail is a must when visiting Mt. Fromme!

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Ledski

(Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)

Trail 7th Secret

Accessible North Shore style trail that flows well through its fortified rocky technical sections. Really well built and loads of fun.

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edwardbear (Aug 7, 2017 at 9:19)

Trail Leppard

thank you pete and giant........jim

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j-tommy

(Mar 22, 2015 at 16:54)

Trail 7th Secret

Beauty of a trail! First ride today, my first ride on the Shore... and it lived up to the hype. Even got to meet Pete, who I understand is the master builder on this beauty. The rock work is amazing! It was pretty busy up there, but everyone was in a good mood and very friendly. Overall a great ride.

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Trails in Route

	7th Secret				3,133 ft
	Leppard				2,178 ft
	Crinkum Crankum				1,657 ft
	Crinkum Access				361 ft
	Kirkford				1,745 ft
	Cedar Tree Trail				1,260 ft
	Upper Griffen				1,499 ft
	Parking Lot Connector				663 ft
	Roadside Attraction				161 ft
	Mountain Highway Access				52 ft

Details

Riding area

Mount Fromme
Primary Activity

Mountain Bike
Difficulty rating

Black Diamond
Route Type

Point to Point
eBike Allowed

No
Bike type

DH
Direction

One Direction
Physical rating

Moderate
Ridelogs

3

More Stats for 4k Fromme descent mountain bike route

Altitude change

-1,395 ft
Altitude min

1,120 ft
Altitude start

2,540 ft
Altitude end

1,145 ft
Grade

-11%
Grade max

-57.9%
Grade min

13.3%
Distance climb

2,024 ft
Distance down

2 miles
Distance flat

157 ft

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Recent Trail Reports Along Route

trail	date	description
Kirkford	Mar 22, 2023 @ 2:22pm 4 hours	Removed tree. Repaired structure.
Upper Griffen	Mar 19, 2023 @ 12:32am Mar 19, 2023
Crinkum Crankum	Feb 21, 2023 @ 12:11pm Feb 21, 2023	Snow in the straights for the first couple of switchbacks, corners are clear and rideable.
Roadside Attraction	Feb 19, 2023 @ 2:31am Feb 19, 2023	Rideable and mostly clear
Cedar Tree Trail	Feb 18, 2023 @ 6:07am Feb 18, 2023

4k Fromme descent route

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