10.9 miles
Distance
2,736 ft
Climb
-2,736 ft
Descent
2,541 ft
High Point
A solid day on Fromme, climb up to 7th ride back down to the 1st switchback, back up to Expresso , traverse BP and end with a quick lap(s) of Bobsled
Detailed Description
7th, Expresso and Bobsled is a 11 mile moderately popular intermediate route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route. This route includes 29 trails. This route climbs 2,736 ft with a max elevation of 2,541 ft then descends -2,736 ft.
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BikingMama777
(Mar 14, 2023 at 9:23)
Trail Warden's Climb
All I can say is, OMG, if you can clean this, you must be in awesome shape and have skookum skills! I pretty much walked up this one! A lot of small & medium step-ups (roots & rocks), extremely technical and very steep in places.
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BikingMama777
(Mar 14, 2023 at 9:20)
Trail Crinkum Crankum
This trail tested my resolve! Very techy (like a lot of trails here) and lots of tight switchbacks. I am new-ish to dh riding so this tested my mettle. Will return to conquer it!
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BikingMama777
(Mar 14, 2023 at 9:17)
Trail Roadside Attraction
Just because it's a green trail doesn't mean it isn't fun! Lots of little rollers and a semi-skinny for newer riders to practice on.
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theconorcons
(Dec 8, 2022 at 15:06)
(Dec 8, 2022 at 15:06)
I love this trail. Very challenging, but there is flow to be found here if you find the lines and the speed! The builders are doing a great job making it more rideable while still keeping lots of the challenge. Always a challenge to clean the whole section from Expresso to Mountain Highway, that one climb is tough!
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provin1327
(Jul 26, 2022 at 14:28)
Rode this west to east after exiting Expresso and holy crap this trail has some technical and challenging sections! Although there are some traversing sections on this trail that are blue in difficulty overall it's a black, a pretty difficult black at that. It's fun and challenging but if you are an intermediate rider this trail will eat you alive and you'll probably be walking a chunk of it.
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razzlebazzil
SHORE CORPS (Jul 27, 2022 at 14:37)
You got it, it's the blackest blue trail on the shore! All I can say is you should have seen it 6 years ago. A few thousand hours over the last six years have gone into fixing up this section of trail. We haven't eliminated the gnar but there are some relatively smooth lines (albeit about 4" wide) through the rougher sections. This trail definitely helps folks progress!
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cbvan
(Jul 16, 2022 at 11:58)
Trail Warden's Climb
this is intended as a climbing trail onky
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maggiedurkin
(Jun 20, 2022 at 22:03)
A bit of a surprise, a fun surprise, but after a pretty mellow traverse from expresso the trail changes it’s vibe quite drastically! Be prepared to ride through like 10 rock gardens. Very well put together rock gardens, but somewhat twisty rock gardens nonetheless. Helps to know what to expect! That being said still a great way to get back to the parking lot.
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northshoregurl
(May 30, 2022 at 1:23)
Trail 7th Secret
It is soooo worth the climb. What a sweet trail.
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Superepicguy264
(May 3, 2022 at 19:24)
Trail Crinkum Crankum
From looking at the really rocky sections I thought they would be really bumpy but, if you go at speed they are actually quite smooth
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SpecSRAM
(Nov 8, 2021 at 10:42)
Ridden many times...decided to finally post a comment lol. I really only use BP to ride back out to the Upper Parking Lot and the final descent once you get past Big Stupid is no joke. You can create and carry some ridiculously fun speed down here. Be careful though, as hikers regularly use BP, both ways. You CAN get down the final descent in about 1:30, but your hands will not like it.
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Mcyeetus
(Sep 26, 2021 at 12:07)
Trail Crinkum Crankum
One of the best trails on fromme. Steep rock switchbacks and at the end, there is a fun wooden ladder part.
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Mcyeetus
(Sep 26, 2021 at 12:04)
Trail Bobsled
Probably the best flow trail on fromme (can't decide between expresso or this). Such fun for intermediate/advanced riders to see how fast they can go and super fun for beginners getting into mountain biking, with low consequence features and virtually no tech.
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Mcyeetus
(Sep 25, 2021 at 16:40)
Trail 7th Secret
My favorite trail on fromme. Such a good mix of tech, features, and flow. Awesome trail worth the climb for sure!
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gg444
(Sep 11, 2021 at 21:27)
Trail Expresso
Amazing entry level black, the best flow trail on the Shore by far (sorry Bobsled). I would consider it slightly easier than Floppy just becuase it's a bit more flowy and faster for intermediates, and definitely worth the climb. I always finish my day riding Expresso during golden hour.
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colchilibeck
(Aug 21, 2021 at 11:39)
Trail 7th Secret
Really amazing trail. I Ben in the wet there is still lots of grip.
A note to fast riders, don’t try passing slower riders while they are moving through techy/rocky steep turns. It ruins the experience when you bail because someone decides to blow by you. Just give a shout and pass when safe to do so!! We are all there to have fun. Keep those maneuvers for a race day!
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A note to fast riders, don’t try passing slower riders while they are moving through techy/rocky steep turns. It ruins the experience when you bail because someone decides to blow by you. Just give a shout and pass when safe to do so!! We are all there to have fun. Keep those maneuvers for a race day!
mario9000
(Jun 14, 2021 at 13:12)
(Jun 14, 2021 at 13:12)
Found a piece if wood with a 3" nail sticking up out of it on a bridge going eastward just before pipeline exit. Seemed to be placed there purposely. It has been disposed of now. I will upload an image.
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razzlebazzil
SHORE CORPS (Jun 15, 2021 at 10:45)
Thank you for taking care of that. I'll swing through and take a good look.
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Wesmacaulay
FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 23:44)
Trail 7th Secret
Rock work is astonishing. I can’t even think of all the hours of work put into the construction of this trail. Epic.
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Wesmacaulay
FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 21:09)
A decent but challenging traverse trail back from Espresso. Some of the steeps could be made a bit more ridable. The large rock gardens will be dangerous for many riders if it's wet. Only worth riding west to east.
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zikkidee
(Apr 11, 2021 at 19:45)
Trail Roadside Attraction
Is nobody going to ignore the fact that the photo at the top of this page is very clearly NOT roadside attraction? Lol
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Nickapm
(Feb 28, 2021 at 23:44)
Trail Crinkum Crankum
Did this my first day mountain biking! Great track very fun! If you take it slow enough anyone can do it! I did walk one section but other than that was a blast!
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quithollerin
(Jan 21, 2021 at 10:16)
(Jan 21, 2021 at 10:16)
Yup. I can honestly say that I'm over Baden. It's now just another fee to pay if you want to ride Expresso. Shaves some life off of your bike everytime you ride it.
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ranchitup
(Nov 23, 2020 at 21:53)
There are several sections on this trail that will f*ck a beginner up, especially in the wet. With that being said there are a few pretty fun sections on this trail and overall not terrible for a traverse.
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darcraver
(Nov 14, 2020 at 19:39)
The trail totally rocks! Should have seen it 10-15 years ago 
Great progression trail after the warmup on Expresso. Unbelievable amount of work done on this trail the last few years to make it more blue like, but it keeps fighting back
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Great progression trail after the warmup on Expresso. Unbelievable amount of work done on this trail the last few years to make it more blue like, but it keeps fighting back 
liamdubs
(Aug 25, 2020 at 16:19)
Like everyone says, not a blue. This is some sort of a prank.
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Dannyjean
(Aug 3, 2020 at 11:50)
(Aug 3, 2020 at 11:50)
Trail 7th Secret
Absolute stellar trail. Worth that little extra climb FOR SURE
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SeventhSecret
(Apr 28, 2020 at 20:48)
Agree with the comments here -- this is by far the blackest blue trail anywhere on the North Shore. It tends to get pretty beaten up as well, and can get super-gnarly. There are several corners on the downhill section going East towards Mtn Highway (from Espresso / Pipeline, etc.), that are essentially steep rock gardens, and pretty slippery especially when they're wet. Not to mention the beginning of the downhill section... the mandatory steep ladder onto steep rock garden, with a slight left turn at the bottom, would be pretty intimidating, even for a black trail.
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JTJ10
(Apr 24, 2020 at 19:57)
Trail Crinkum Crankum
Awesome trail but beware of tight, rocky and sometimes quite steep corners(not very blue votes aside). Still overall sick trail and great for getting better at rocky corners! Most of the other TTFs have a ride around.
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JTJ10
(Apr 11, 2020 at 12:53)
Trail Expresso
Rode the trail a couple days ago for the first time. Although its rated blue on trail forks there are some harder sections and some decent drops, this may partly be because the trail has gotten a bit beaten up from winter and all the traffic it receives but with the current virus situation there may not be much trail maintenance for a while so keep that in mind if your expecting something really blue your first time down the trail. Still a really fun trail and great entry level black diamond, if you can handle floppy bunny(the more techy parts and bridges not the optional jumps) and you want to step it up I would recommend it, the climb is long in comparison but its a fun trail with the hardest features optional so you can work your way up to them, also the hardest non-optional parts are pretty easy to walk and there are only a couple.
All around awesome entry level black trail and im exited to ride it again in the next couple of days!
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All around awesome entry level black trail and im exited to ride it again in the next couple of days!
JTJ10
(Apr 4, 2020 at 9:56)
Trail Bobsled
Trail in great shape, although its voted green there are some parts that are blue. Great for newer riders just go to the left when you see the sign with arrows (right has two drops, one with and one without a roll down) and if you want a smoother exit take another left when the trail splits as to the right is the original exit which is still great but has a few drops and rocks where as the new exit (left) is super flowy and easy and takes you right to the parking lot.
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bboyshredder
(Mar 23, 2020 at 16:16)
Trail Warden's Climb
It's not really a blue should be a black if you try to climb up it.
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B-Rough
(Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
(Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
Similar to many of the comments above I took this trail as a connector from Expresso. This trail did surprise me as due to the rock paths they have created (I think for hikers) it is actually pretty challenging, definitely harder than Expresso in my view.
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bboyshredder
(Jul 16, 2019 at 8:57)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome rocky trail . worth the climb , but some berms are beat up.
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bboyshredder
(Jul 16, 2019 at 8:46)
Trail Crinkum Crankum
Awesome if you like ladders and flowy but rocky corners !
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JemSamonte
(May 7, 2019 at 21:16)
Rode this trail after trying Expresso the 2nd time. Was very technical for me but was really fun. Walked most of the uphill part and some sketchy descent. You just have to be mindful since a lot of hikers are on this trail as well. Will definitely try again this weekend after pipeline or expresso.
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andreyapopov
(Mar 28, 2019 at 13:44)
This is NOT a blue trail; it should be marked as black diamond. I ride blue trails almost exclusively with couple black ones thrown in, and this one is by far the hardest I've done. There are some "black" trail in Squamish and Seymour that are easier than this one.
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andreyapopov
(Mar 28, 2019 at 13:48)
In fact, Expresso - black rated trail - is much easier than this one.
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martywis
(Mar 25, 2019 at 8:51)
Trail Expresso
Hi Guys, I was riding Saturday around 4:00 and saw couple of guys on eBikes riding cross country through the woods (maybe crossing between Crippler and ESpresso)...
Unfortunately I did not manage to talk to them - but if anybody knows who they were or sees them again, please highlite that riding off trails with ebikes especially will cause damage to our sport and the fantastic location on the northshore.
btw. I am a eMTB rider as well... and there is more then enough fun on the perfect existing trails!
Please respect and share this attitude!!!!
Marty
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Unfortunately I did not manage to talk to them - but if anybody knows who they were or sees them again, please highlite that riding off trails with ebikes especially will cause damage to our sport and the fantastic location on the northshore.
btw. I am a eMTB rider as well... and there is more then enough fun on the perfect existing trails!
Please respect and share this attitude!!!!
Marty
Edu888
(Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
(Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
Took the trail to go back to the parking lot after Espresso and I can safely say that this trail is significantly harder. Super steep rocky climbs lead to super steep rocky descents. The descents are really fun though.
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KevinStafford
(Oct 17, 2018 at 15:23)
Trail Bobsled
You know how when you go for a breakfast buffet and, if you're like me, you reach for the bacon first? But you only grab maybe 4 or 6 pieces because there's so many other delicious items, like hash browns, eggs, and maybe even some prime rib? So when you clean your plate, and think about seconds, sadly you're just too full.
You know you'll be hungry later, and you'll regret not filling your plate with more of that crispy bacon.
Well bacon to a breakfast buffet is what Bob Sled is to Mt Fromme.
Go for seconds.
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You know you'll be hungry later, and you'll regret not filling your plate with more of that crispy bacon.
Well bacon to a breakfast buffet is what Bob Sled is to Mt Fromme.
Go for seconds.
crashelman
(Sep 14, 2018 at 11:25)
(Sep 14, 2018 at 11:25)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome trail in wet weather! Epic amount of armour and nothing too sketchy. Great start to Crinkum and Kirkford
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rippingnoles
(Aug 31, 2018 at 18:20)
Trail Crinkum Access
Managed to clear as much of it as I could find. Thank Odin for tubeless tires tho
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rippingnoles
(Aug 31, 2018 at 18:19)
Trail Crinkum Access
Just a heads up all. There’s a significant amount of broken glass spread out on Kirkford beginning approx 20 feet after the initial wood roll-in. I’d like to think it wasn’t intentional but it came in a variety of colours and spread quite neatly.
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JacksonThack
(Jul 30, 2018 at 8:56)
This trail is exceptionally technical with massive uphill rock gardens, steep stairs, and not much fun for me as an intermediate rider
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georgeshumway
(Jun 30, 2018 at 20:00)
Trail 7th Secret
Anyone know how this trail compares in terms of difficulty with expresso?
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KevinStafford
(Apr 4, 2018 at 6:27)
Yeah, that was the blackest blue I've ever ridden. However, I had a great time rolling those steps and re enforced stone descents back to parking. Great trail in its own right.
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konarider112
(Mar 16, 2018 at 20:55)
This is the hardest blue trail I’ve ever ridden. Especially east to west; I had to push my bike.
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chris-mcintyre
(Sep 24, 2017 at 16:44)
(Sep 24, 2017 at 16:44)
Trail 7th Secret
One of the most if not the most amazing trail on the mountain! Definitely worth going up and shredding all the way down to Kirkford! This trail is a must when visiting Mt. Fromme!
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Ledski
(Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
(Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
Much harder than expected and quite challenging to ride east to west. Quite technical.
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Ledski
(Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)
(Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)
Trail 7th Secret
Accessible North Shore style trail that flows well through its fortified rocky technical sections. Really well built and loads of fun.
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j-tommy
(Mar 22, 2015 at 16:54)
(Mar 22, 2015 at 16:54)
Trail 7th Secret
Beauty of a trail! First ride today, my first ride on the Shore... and it lived up to the hype. Even got to meet Pete, who I understand is the master builder on this beauty. The rock work is amazing! It was pretty busy up there, but everyone was in a good mood and very friendly. Overall a great ride.
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