19.5 miles
Distance
5,134 ft
Climb
-5,141 ft
Descent
2,541 ft
High Point

Three different ways down the mountain, all starting with 7th Secret.

Detailed Description
7th Secret 3 Ways is a 20 mile moderately popular intermediate route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route and has a moderate overall physical rating. This route includes 64 trails. This route climbs 5,134 ft with a max elevation of 2,541 ft then descends -5,141 ft.
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248 Reviews & Comments

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theconorcons (Dec 8, 2022 at 15:06)
I love this trail. Very challenging, but there is flow to be found here if you find the lines and the speed! The builders are doing a great job making it more rideable while still keeping lots of the challenge. Always a challenge to clean the whole section from Expresso to Mountain Highway, that one climb is tough!
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theconorcons (Dec 8, 2022 at 15:06)
I love this trail. Very challenging, but there is flow to be found here if you find the lines and the speed! The builders are doing a great job making it more rideable while still keeping lots of the challenge. Always a challenge to clean the whole section from Expresso to Mountain Highway, that one climb is tough!
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theconorcons (Dec 8, 2022 at 15:06)
I love this trail. Very challenging, but there is flow to be found here if you find the lines and the speed! The builders are doing a great job making it more rideable while still keeping lots of the challenge. Always a challenge to clean the whole section from Expresso to Mountain Highway, that one climb is tough!
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ruminates (Nov 23, 2022 at 20:08)
Trail 7th Secret
still snow free
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ruminates (Nov 23, 2022 at 20:08)
Trail 7th Secret
still snow free
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ruminates (Nov 23, 2022 at 20:08)
Trail 7th Secret
still snow free
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tinroos (Nov 11, 2022 at 7:45)
Trail Dreamweaver
The bridge on dreamweaver has been destroyed by a fallen tree. This happened around Nov 8 or 9 2022. You can get around but it’s a hike-a-bike.
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tadamszz5 (Nov 9, 2022 at 13:58)
Trail Leppard
Snow at the trail head, but rideable.
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tadamszz5 (Nov 9, 2022 at 13:58)
Trail Leppard
Snow at the trail head, but rideable.
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tadamszz5 (Nov 9, 2022 at 13:58)
Trail Leppard
Snow at the trail head, but rideable.
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marclangasque (Oct 15, 2022 at 3:24)
Trail Kirkford
Good trace! Not too difficult and really fun!
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drdbnd (Aug 15, 2022 at 8:34)
Trail Kirkford
Resent gold dirt work has really improved the trail. Running best it’s been in years. Thanks to Sarah, Markus, and Thomas for their hard work.
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conrad-hoc (Jul 29, 2022 at 8:46)
Trail Dreamweaver
I agree the direction/signage is hard to follow. Big thanks to all the comments above warning me to avoid turning down St. George's by mistake (success!). Trail was dry and root sections were fairly exposed. I'd say it's a dark blue with some black sections.
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provin1327 (Jul 26, 2022 at 14:28)
Rode this west to east after exiting Expresso and holy crap this trail has some technical and challenging sections! Although there are some traversing sections on this trail that are blue in difficulty overall it's a black, a pretty difficult black at that. It's fun and challenging but if you are an intermediate rider this trail will eat you alive and you'll probably be walking a chunk of it.
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provin1327 (Jul 26, 2022 at 14:28)
Rode this west to east after exiting Expresso and holy crap this trail has some technical and challenging sections! Although there are some traversing sections on this trail that are blue in difficulty overall it's a black, a pretty difficult black at that. It's fun and challenging but if you are an intermediate rider this trail will eat you alive and you'll probably be walking a chunk of it.
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provin1327 (Jul 26, 2022 at 14:28)
Rode this west to east after exiting Expresso and holy crap this trail has some technical and challenging sections! Although there are some traversing sections on this trail that are blue in difficulty overall it's a black, a pretty difficult black at that. It's fun and challenging but if you are an intermediate rider this trail will eat you alive and you'll probably be walking a chunk of it.
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razzlebazzil SHORE CORPS (Jul 27, 2022 at 14:37)
You got it, it's the blackest blue trail on the shore! All I can say is you should have seen it 6 years ago. A few thousand hours over the last six years have gone into fixing up this section of trail. We haven't eliminated the gnar but there are some relatively smooth lines (albeit about 4" wide) through the rougher sections. This trail definitely helps folks progress!
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razzlebazzil SHORE CORPS (Jul 27, 2022 at 14:37)
You got it, it's the blackest blue trail on the shore! All I can say is you should have seen it 6 years ago. A few thousand hours over the last six years have gone into fixing up this section of trail. We haven't eliminated the gnar but there are some relatively smooth lines (albeit about 4" wide) through the rougher sections. This trail definitely helps folks progress!
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razzlebazzil SHORE CORPS (Jul 27, 2022 at 14:37)
You got it, it's the blackest blue trail on the shore! All I can say is you should have seen it 6 years ago. A few thousand hours over the last six years have gone into fixing up this section of trail. We haven't eliminated the gnar but there are some relatively smooth lines (albeit about 4" wide) through the rougher sections. This trail definitely helps folks progress!
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CliffPhilpot (Jul 24, 2022 at 9:39)
Trail Executioner
Y you c tv cyg
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Cmguidroz (Jul 11, 2022 at 14:07)
Trail Expresso
This my be the holy grail of downhill fun technical trails as far as I’m concerned. It’s a trek to the top but god is it fun to ride down. Such a good time with moments of complete fear. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you north shore!
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NikkiA (Jul 9, 2022 at 13:44)
Trail Kirkford
Thanks to the crew for all of the fresh trail work. It's running great!
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maggiedurkin (Jun 20, 2022 at 22:03)
A bit of a surprise, a fun surprise, but after a pretty mellow traverse from expresso the trail changes it’s vibe quite drastically! Be prepared to ride through like 10 rock gardens. Very well put together rock gardens, but somewhat twisty rock gardens nonetheless. Helps to know what to expect! That being said still a great way to get back to the parking lot.
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maggiedurkin (Jun 20, 2022 at 22:03)
A bit of a surprise, a fun surprise, but after a pretty mellow traverse from expresso the trail changes it’s vibe quite drastically! Be prepared to ride through like 10 rock gardens. Very well put together rock gardens, but somewhat twisty rock gardens nonetheless. Helps to know what to expect! That being said still a great way to get back to the parking lot.
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maggiedurkin (Jun 20, 2022 at 22:03)
A bit of a surprise, a fun surprise, but after a pretty mellow traverse from expresso the trail changes it’s vibe quite drastically! Be prepared to ride through like 10 rock gardens. Very well put together rock gardens, but somewhat twisty rock gardens nonetheless. Helps to know what to expect! That being said still a great way to get back to the parking lot.
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yourenglishisgood (Jun 5, 2022 at 0:00)
Trail Pennzoil
Good mix of flow and tech, must have been work since the previous comments. Berms, fun wood and rock work, a few table tops and side hits, optional doubles, small rollable drops, great finisher.
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yourenglishisgood (Jun 4, 2022 at 23:42)
Trail Pipeline
A little narrow in spots on my modern trail limo but once you get a feel for it the trail flows beautifully. Boardwalks, teeters, small to medium rock faces, and creative stone work. A well preserved piece of shore history, and one of my all time favourite trails.
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northshoregurl (May 30, 2022 at 1:23)
Trail 7th Secret
It is soooo worth the climb. What a sweet trail.
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northshoregurl (May 30, 2022 at 1:23)
Trail 7th Secret
It is soooo worth the climb. What a sweet trail.
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northshoregurl (May 30, 2022 at 1:23)
Trail 7th Secret
It is soooo worth the climb. What a sweet trail.
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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 19:24)
From looking at the really rocky sections I thought they would be really bumpy but, if you go at speed they are actually quite smooth
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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 14:33)
Trail Kirkford
This trail had some REALLy tight berms that felt like they were dug into the ground
the dirt walls go up near your shoulders at some parts
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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 14:30)
Trail Expresso
Is a blue but has one section with a double black diamond rick roll and both ride arounds are black diamond
but easy to walk down
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sdrvper HMBA (Apr 11, 2022 at 8:57)
Trail Pipeline
New woodwork is amazing. As a visitor, Pipeline was my favourite black diamond trail that I rode (between 7th, Expresso, floppy). Awesome trail.
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SpecSRAM (Nov 8, 2021 at 10:42)
Ridden many times...decided to finally post a comment lol. I really only use BP to ride back out to the Upper Parking Lot and the final descent once you get past Big Stupid is no joke. You can create and carry some ridiculously fun speed down here. Be careful though, as hikers regularly use BP, both ways. You CAN get down the final descent in about 1:30, but your hands will not like it.
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SpecSRAM (Nov 8, 2021 at 10:42)
Ridden many times...decided to finally post a comment lol. I really only use BP to ride back out to the Upper Parking Lot and the final descent once you get past Big Stupid is no joke. You can create and carry some ridiculously fun speed down here. Be careful though, as hikers regularly use BP, both ways. You CAN get down the final descent in about 1:30, but your hands will not like it.
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SpecSRAM (Nov 8, 2021 at 10:42)
Ridden many times...decided to finally post a comment lol. I really only use BP to ride back out to the Upper Parking Lot and the final descent once you get past Big Stupid is no joke. You can create and carry some ridiculously fun speed down here. Be careful though, as hikers regularly use BP, both ways. You CAN get down the final descent in about 1:30, but your hands will not like it.
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vinnie03 (Oct 14, 2021 at 14:34)
Trail Dreamweaver
I’m sure it’s a decent trail once you know where you’re going but there’s about 100 other trails crossing through with hardly any signs and I don’t think it’s good enough of a trail to ride it more than once.
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corerider (Oct 11, 2021 at 18:18)
Trail Kirkford
How this is still rated a black diamond is beyond me. The endless switchbacks are a waste of good vertical that the old trail had in spades.
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SAMMEYER (Oct 8, 2021 at 18:52)
Whoever built that woodwork down near the bottom did an amazing job.
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Wizard13 (Sep 30, 2021 at 19:01)
Trail should definitely be a double… thought it would be fun to link up with Espresso, was wrong
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Mcyeetus (Sep 29, 2021 at 18:26)
Very fun flowy section to end off Expresso. Has some fun chill wooden features to play around with.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:09)
Trail Kirkford
Tight switchbacks. Good trail to learn bike control on and is a pretty chill trail excluding the log ride.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:07)
One of the best trails on fromme. Steep rock switchbacks and at the end, there is a fun wooden ladder part.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:02)
Trail Expresso
An awesome trail on Fromme. Good mix of flow and a little tech. Also includes some harder features if you would like to challenge yourself but there are go around for all of them.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 25, 2021 at 16:40)
Trail 7th Secret
My favorite trail on fromme. Such a good mix of tech, features, and flow. Awesome trail worth the climb for sure!
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Mcyeetus (Sep 25, 2021 at 16:40)
Trail 7th Secret
My favorite trail on fromme. Such a good mix of tech, features, and flow. Awesome trail worth the climb for sure!
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Mcyeetus (Sep 25, 2021 at 16:40)
Trail 7th Secret
My favorite trail on fromme. Such a good mix of tech, features, and flow. Awesome trail worth the climb for sure!
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gg444 (Sep 11, 2021 at 21:27)
Trail Expresso
Amazing entry level black, the best flow trail on the Shore by far (sorry Bobsled). I would consider it slightly easier than Floppy just becuase it's a bit more flowy and faster for intermediates, and definitely worth the climb. I always finish my day riding Expresso during golden hour.
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FancyMango (Aug 31, 2021 at 1:35)
Trail Expresso
Man, I want to go ride that trail for the first time, but I cant go alone. Maybe someday.
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98teg (Aug 24, 2021 at 19:49)
Trail Expresso
Love this trail, 2nd time riding it, the only crappy part his having to ride baden powel trail. Definitely an easier black, speed is you friend.
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b-rider (Aug 23, 2021 at 13:40)
Trail Expresso
I dropped my driver's license by accident at the entrance to Expresso today (Aug. 23). Realized this when I got to ladies only, went back up and it was gone. Pm me on pinkbike if you happened to pick it up.
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colchilibeck (Aug 21, 2021 at 11:39)
Trail 7th Secret
Really amazing trail. I Ben in the wet there is still lots of grip.
A note to fast riders, don’t try passing slower riders while they are moving through techy/rocky steep turns. It ruins the experience when you bail because someone decides to blow by you. Just give a shout and pass when safe to do so!! We are all there to have fun. Keep those maneuvers for a race day!
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colchilibeck (Aug 21, 2021 at 11:39)
Trail 7th Secret
Really amazing trail. I Ben in the wet there is still lots of grip.
A note to fast riders, don’t try passing slower riders while they are moving through techy/rocky steep turns. It ruins the experience when you bail because someone decides to blow by you. Just give a shout and pass when safe to do so!! We are all there to have fun. Keep those maneuvers for a race day!
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colchilibeck (Aug 21, 2021 at 11:39)
Trail 7th Secret
Really amazing trail. I Ben in the wet there is still lots of grip.
A note to fast riders, don’t try passing slower riders while they are moving through techy/rocky steep turns. It ruins the experience when you bail because someone decides to blow by you. Just give a shout and pass when safe to do so!! We are all there to have fun. Keep those maneuvers for a race day!
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zwass (Jul 15, 2021 at 12:34)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Definitely easier than a black as an uphill trail. Great uphill at that!
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mario9000 (Jun 14, 2021 at 13:12)
Found a piece if wood with a 3" nail sticking up out of it on a bridge going eastward just before pipeline exit. Seemed to be placed there purposely. It has been disposed of now. I will upload an image.
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mario9000 (Jun 14, 2021 at 13:12)
Found a piece if wood with a 3" nail sticking up out of it on a bridge going eastward just before pipeline exit. Seemed to be placed there purposely. It has been disposed of now. I will upload an image.
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mario9000 (Jun 14, 2021 at 13:12)
Found a piece if wood with a 3" nail sticking up out of it on a bridge going eastward just before pipeline exit. Seemed to be placed there purposely. It has been disposed of now. I will upload an image.
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razzlebazzil SHORE CORPS (Jun 15, 2021 at 10:45)
Thank you for taking care of that. I'll swing through and take a good look.
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razzlebazzil SHORE CORPS (Jun 15, 2021 at 10:45)
Thank you for taking care of that. I'll swing through and take a good look.
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razzlebazzil SHORE CORPS (Jun 15, 2021 at 10:45)
Thank you for taking care of that. I'll swing through and take a good look.
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goodsirmartin SHORE CORPS (Jun 9, 2021 at 14:57)
The replacement woodwork on Lower Crippler is probably the best built woodwork I’ve ever seen. So solid, beautifully built and rides perfectly. Thank you thank you to the builder
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 23:44)
Trail 7th Secret
Rock work is astonishing. I can’t even think of all the hours of work put into the construction of this trail. Epic.
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 23:44)
Trail 7th Secret
Rock work is astonishing. I can’t even think of all the hours of work put into the construction of this trail. Epic.
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 23:44)
Trail 7th Secret
Rock work is astonishing. I can’t even think of all the hours of work put into the construction of this trail. Epic.
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 21:11)
Trail Expresso
First time on Espresso. Fun trail, mostly easy blue with some rock slab descents that are black.
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 21:09)
A decent but challenging traverse trail back from Espresso. Some of the steeps could be made a bit more ridable. The large rock gardens will be dangerous for many riders if it's wet. Only worth riding west to east.
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 21:09)
A decent but challenging traverse trail back from Espresso. Some of the steeps could be made a bit more ridable. The large rock gardens will be dangerous for many riders if it's wet. Only worth riding west to east.
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 21:09)
A decent but challenging traverse trail back from Espresso. Some of the steeps could be made a bit more ridable. The large rock gardens will be dangerous for many riders if it's wet. Only worth riding west to east.
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A-ran (Jun 5, 2021 at 19:48)
There is a tree down a little bit above the junction with executioner ascent trail
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liamdubs (Jun 4, 2021 at 23:02)
Trail Kirkford
I rode this trail a lot before I saw the optional line just before the log ride. I recommend you keep your eye out for it!
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adnauseam (Jun 4, 2021 at 20:31)
Trail Pipeline
Rode this today for the first time. Pumped to try the wood work, especially the horseshoe turn with the Teeter.. however we couldn't find it. Perhaps we missed a split in the trail? Still very fun with lots of proper jank near the bottom that's def challenging
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liamdubs (Jun 6, 2021 at 8:25)
Trail Pipeline
its being redone, it's totally removed now.
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octet (May 21, 2021 at 16:23)
Trail Pipeline
If whoever is rebuilding the woodwork on this needs help, I've time. I sent an email into the nsmba.
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JKLikebikes (May 20, 2021 at 19:40)
Trail Dreamweaver
Trail is in rough shape, lots of gravel, needs some love fornsure.
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MTBaboon (May 7, 2021 at 9:52)
Trail Pipeline
This trail has probably the noisiest teeter totter ever.
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kupos (May 2, 2021 at 16:33)
Trail Pipeline
Great fun trail if you prefer something techie. Kind of similar to 7th Secret but requires slightly more precise lines. Very fun scenic detour skinny!
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liamdubs (Apr 27, 2021 at 19:47)
I can understand arguments for not being double black, but logically to me that would push the rating of a lot of fromme trails down to blue (floppy bunny, kirkford, krinkum, expresso all come to mind).

Definitely one to practice and learn the lines on.
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corerider (Mar 12, 2022 at 17:36)
Most of the trails on Fromme have been uprated to eliminate all of the real hard trails. Espresso is not a black, neither is Kirkford, Crinkum, Oilcan or a host of others....sadly those that have the rating of black or double black and actually are are WAY beyond what most new riders think a black is. Lower Skull comes to mind, as does Bookwus, Grannies, Upper Crippler and Dirt Diggler (most don't ride it anymore...props if you know where it is...)
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emjaybee (Apr 22, 2021 at 15:15)
Trail Dreamweaver
Trail was quite dusty and loose this week.
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liamdubs (Apr 21, 2021 at 15:58)
Trail Pennzoil
I'm not sure I agree with the above commenters, it's a blue techy trail. there's roots and rocks because it's a blue techy trail.
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Yaan (Apr 21, 2021 at 16:25)
Trail Pennzoil
Maybe this crowd needs to stick to the green trails.
Not every trail needs to be 10' wide and super smooth, how do riders progress?
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liamdubs (Apr 19, 2021 at 20:17)
Trail Pipeline
They are totally redoing the iconic woodwork at the top of pipeline, its all gone now. The trail is still rideable and running good though.
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zikkidee (Apr 11, 2021 at 19:45)
Is nobody going to ignore the fact that the photo at the top of this page is very clearly NOT roadside attraction? Lol
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brenthillier NSMBA (Apr 12, 2021 at 7:59)
Then flag it!
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zikkidee (Apr 17, 2021 at 22:45)
I did, thanks for reminding me Smile
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vinnie03 (Apr 8, 2021 at 17:02)
Trail Kirkford
The start of the trail is a lot of fun why so many switchbacks? That's just a waste of terrain.
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heybmay (Apr 3, 2021 at 13:08)
Trail Pipeline
A step up in difficulty from Expresso but doable and got the adrenaline going.
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Nickapm (Feb 28, 2021 at 23:44)
Did this my first day mountain biking! Great track very fun! If you take it slow enough anyone can do it! I did walk one section but other than that was a blast!
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LoveDh (Feb 28, 2021 at 11:50)
Thank you to whoever built the new feature and rebuilt the old skinny on the last 200m of trail!
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kyleluvsdh (Feb 7, 2021 at 16:08)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Love the trail name, so Canadian haha
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zwass (Jan 26, 2021 at 10:44)
Wood features are definitely double-black with solid black tech ride-arounds possible.
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quithollerin (Jan 21, 2021 at 10:16)
Yup. I can honestly say that I'm over Baden. It's now just another fee to pay if you want to ride Expresso. Shaves some life off of your bike everytime you ride it.
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quithollerin (Jan 21, 2021 at 10:16)
Yup. I can honestly say that I'm over Baden. It's now just another fee to pay if you want to ride Expresso. Shaves some life off of your bike everytime you ride it.
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quithollerin (Jan 21, 2021 at 10:16)
Yup. I can honestly say that I'm over Baden. It's now just another fee to pay if you want to ride Expresso. Shaves some life off of your bike everytime you ride it.
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98teg (Jan 4, 2021 at 22:27)
This was harder than floppy bunny and expresso
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98teg (Jan 4, 2021 at 22:27)
This was harder than floppy bunny and expresso
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98teg (Jan 4, 2021 at 22:27)
This was harder than floppy bunny and expresso
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nicholmen (Dec 22, 2020 at 19:18)
Trail Pennzoil
Pretty sizeable tree down right at the very end just a few metres before it hits the street, absolutely nutted myself
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fiekaodclked (Dec 6, 2020 at 13:50)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Great climbing trail. Thanks to all the builders for their efforts! Keep up the good work!
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ranchitup (Nov 23, 2020 at 21:53)
There are several sections on this trail that will f*ck a beginner up, especially in the wet. With that being said there are a few pretty fun sections on this trail and overall not terrible for a traverse.
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ranchitup (Nov 23, 2020 at 21:53)
There are several sections on this trail that will f*ck a beginner up, especially in the wet. With that being said there are a few pretty fun sections on this trail and overall not terrible for a traverse.
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ranchitup (Nov 23, 2020 at 21:53)
There are several sections on this trail that will f*ck a beginner up, especially in the wet. With that being said there are a few pretty fun sections on this trail and overall not terrible for a traverse.
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darcraver (Nov 14, 2020 at 19:39)
The trail totally rocks! Should have seen it 10-15 years ago Smile Great progression trail after the warmup on Expresso. Unbelievable amount of work done on this trail the last few years to make it more blue like, but it keeps fighting back Smile
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darcraver (Nov 14, 2020 at 19:39)
The trail totally rocks! Should have seen it 10-15 years ago Smile Great progression trail after the warmup on Expresso. Unbelievable amount of work done on this trail the last few years to make it more blue like, but it keeps fighting back Smile
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darcraver (Nov 14, 2020 at 19:39)
The trail totally rocks! Should have seen it 10-15 years ago Smile Great progression trail after the warmup on Expresso. Unbelievable amount of work done on this trail the last few years to make it more blue like, but it keeps fighting back Smile
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MrTylerHaines (Oct 21, 2020 at 16:44)
If folks are allowed to two-way king of the shore and roadside attraction, I don’t see the issue in making this relatively small section also two-way. May as well be consistent. Especially when many black and double blacks are labeled as two-way on Trailforks. Laf
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brenthillier NSMBA (Oct 21, 2020 at 21:06)
Lots of politics in this area. New things are coming. But for now, please respect the uphill only.
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vbeasse SHORE CORPS (Oct 23, 2020 at 17:25)
Hi,
This trail was built as an uphill only, the construction of up only trails differs from two way or down hill trails. They are simply not designed to handle the downhill use, this is the main reason for the signage. The corners and sign lines are the major differences. I acknowledge that this is the more viable exit for many, please see Brent' s reply. I hope this helps.
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DMoney0041 (Sep 26, 2020 at 12:20)
Insanely difficult tech and rock slabs until it crosses st Mary’s then it gets quite a bit easier.
Should be double black
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liamdubs (Aug 25, 2020 at 16:19)
Like everyone says, not a blue. This is some sort of a prank.
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liamdubs (Aug 25, 2020 at 16:19)
Like everyone says, not a blue. This is some sort of a prank.
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liamdubs (Aug 25, 2020 at 16:19)
Like everyone says, not a blue. This is some sort of a prank.
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stereo87 (Aug 14, 2020 at 7:44)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Looking at how the trail development is progressing, next year it may be paved...
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Dannyjean (Aug 3, 2020 at 11:50)
Trail 7th Secret
Absolute stellar trail. Worth that little extra climb FOR SURE
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Dannyjean (Aug 3, 2020 at 11:50)
Trail 7th Secret
Absolute stellar trail. Worth that little extra climb FOR SURE
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Dannyjean (Aug 3, 2020 at 11:50)
Trail 7th Secret
Absolute stellar trail. Worth that little extra climb FOR SURE
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ShannonHalliday (Jul 12, 2020 at 18:46)
Found my new favorite trail
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heckler73 NSMBA (May 28, 2020 at 8:06)
the ‘ascent only’ sign at the top of Griffen (Uphill) trail is actually not visible if you are descending from Lower Griffen/watertower exit. If the sign were rotated to the side of the post that’s visible while descending, that might help with wrong-wayers. (We ran into a group of beginner downriders too).
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vbeasse SHORE CORPS (May 28, 2020 at 9:28)
Hi,
yes, it's only visible from the Imonator entrance off the BP. Up to this point I have been remiss to move the signs location as many novice, children and families use the trail to get back to McNair. The Baden Powell exit is not an easy way out for them as it is quite rough.

Signs to suggest to exit by the Water towers, this however is not as "fun" as riding a trail back to the road.

What really needs to happen is some maintenance on the BP, I've looked at it but the project is beyond what I can handle!
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heckler73 NSMBA (Oct 23, 2020 at 18:14)
shoot, I just figured out why - the sign is for Imonator downhill riders climbing back up to the water tower exit! :hits forehead smiley:
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Edu888 (May 14, 2020 at 21:07)
Trail Expresso
Blue trail with black options. If you don't ride the optional stuff, it's solidly a blue trail.
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Habsfan11 (May 9, 2020 at 11:22)
Trail Dreamweaver
Awesome trail for blue riders. More signage in this area would help.
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SeventhSecret (Apr 28, 2020 at 20:48)
Agree with the comments here -- this is by far the blackest blue trail anywhere on the North Shore. It tends to get pretty beaten up as well, and can get super-gnarly. There are several corners on the downhill section going East towards Mtn Highway (from Espresso / Pipeline, etc.), that are essentially steep rock gardens, and pretty slippery especially when they're wet. Not to mention the beginning of the downhill section... the mandatory steep ladder onto steep rock garden, with a slight left turn at the bottom, would be pretty intimidating, even for a black trail.
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SeventhSecret (Apr 28, 2020 at 20:48)
Agree with the comments here -- this is by far the blackest blue trail anywhere on the North Shore. It tends to get pretty beaten up as well, and can get super-gnarly. There are several corners on the downhill section going East towards Mtn Highway (from Espresso / Pipeline, etc.), that are essentially steep rock gardens, and pretty slippery especially when they're wet. Not to mention the beginning of the downhill section... the mandatory steep ladder onto steep rock garden, with a slight left turn at the bottom, would be pretty intimidating, even for a black trail.
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SeventhSecret (Apr 28, 2020 at 20:48)
Agree with the comments here -- this is by far the blackest blue trail anywhere on the North Shore. It tends to get pretty beaten up as well, and can get super-gnarly. There are several corners on the downhill section going East towards Mtn Highway (from Espresso / Pipeline, etc.), that are essentially steep rock gardens, and pretty slippery especially when they're wet. Not to mention the beginning of the downhill section... the mandatory steep ladder onto steep rock garden, with a slight left turn at the bottom, would be pretty intimidating, even for a black trail.
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SpecSRAM (Nov 8, 2021 at 11:18)
Its a super fun thrill ride! Big Grin
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SpecSRAM (Nov 8, 2021 at 11:18)
Its a super fun thrill ride! Big Grin
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SpecSRAM (Nov 8, 2021 at 11:18)
Its a super fun thrill ride! Big Grin
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 20:07)
Great blue tech trail, if you have done trails like bobsled and your wondering what some rocks and roots feel like I would recommend this trail as its kinda XC and not too steep but still lots of fun. Just be weary of going to middle griffen as it isnt in that good of condition now a days and has some very tight corners and even a non-roll drop(which you dont usually see on blue trails but is clearly indicated by the huge amount of scrape marks from people's gears and pedals). I would recommend taking a right and going down king of the shore if you are a more beginner rider.
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:59)
Trail Kirkford
Awesome trail, some steep and techy parts but also alot of really nice flow and LOTS of tight corners. Great front break and cornering practice and honestly cant wait to ride it again!
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:57)
Awesome trail but beware of tight, rocky and sometimes quite steep corners(not very blue votes aside). Still overall sick trail and great for getting better at rocky corners! Most of the other TTFs have a ride around.
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travis-l (Apr 15, 2020 at 20:26)
Trail Dreamweaver
Yeah I just did the same thing! Nasty roots towards the bottom - won't make that mistake again.
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JacksonThack (Apr 15, 2020 at 12:07)
Trail Dreamweaver
Accidentally turned down onto St George's - no signage preventing it - huge waste of elevation. Be sure to a stay left after crossing the BP
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JTJ10 (Apr 11, 2020 at 12:53)
Trail Expresso
Rode the trail a couple days ago for the first time. Although its rated blue on trail forks there are some harder sections and some decent drops, this may partly be because the trail has gotten a bit beaten up from winter and all the traffic it receives but with the current virus situation there may not be much trail maintenance for a while so keep that in mind if your expecting something really blue your first time down the trail. Still a really fun trail and great entry level black diamond, if you can handle floppy bunny(the more techy parts and bridges not the optional jumps) and you want to step it up I would recommend it, the climb is long in comparison but its a fun trail with the hardest features optional so you can work your way up to them, also the hardest non-optional parts are pretty easy to walk and there are only a couple.

All around awesome entry level black trail and im exited to ride it again in the next couple of days!
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curvedwallride (Mar 15, 2020 at 11:59)
Icy half way through.
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the-dh-junkie (Feb 29, 2020 at 19:25)
Trail Pipeline
Very challenging, compared to expresso this feels like a double black
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ridestuff (Nov 11, 2019 at 21:39)
Trail Kirkford
F*cking crazy trail! I’ll be dizzy till I ride it again...
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intox (Nov 9, 2019 at 14:48)
Trail Pipeline
Just after the teeter and leading out of the hairpin, there is a broken support on one side of the ladder. On Nov 8th it was marked with 2 branches in an X. Careful.
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thierrym (Sep 28, 2019 at 18:09)
Trail Expresso
Funand and pretty fast, with lots of kickers.
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vancity (Aug 31, 2019 at 14:12)
This trail is a super fun finisher if you are parked on Braemar Road. A wooden A-frame feature, fun rock rolls, a soon-to-be-finished rollercoaster which looks amazing, a couple jaunty little skinnies on the lower half. Or, bike the first half of Lower Crippler and then cut over to Lower Digger on St. Mary's Trail to finish the day off with some jumpy flow.
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YukonSean (Aug 26, 2019 at 0:37)
Trail Pipeline
Classic!! Awesome tech trail with some cool board walks
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namron88 (Aug 20, 2019 at 20:52)
Sizeable Rock (16"x 10") knocked loose in shoot immediately after the first rock roll.
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B-Rough (Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
Similar to many of the comments above I took this trail as a connector from Expresso. This trail did surprise me as due to the rock paths they have created (I think for hikers) it is actually pretty challenging, definitely harder than Expresso in my view.
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B-Rough (Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
Similar to many of the comments above I took this trail as a connector from Expresso. This trail did surprise me as due to the rock paths they have created (I think for hikers) it is actually pretty challenging, definitely harder than Expresso in my view.
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B-Rough (Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
Similar to many of the comments above I took this trail as a connector from Expresso. This trail did surprise me as due to the rock paths they have created (I think for hikers) it is actually pretty challenging, definitely harder than Expresso in my view.
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Sunnylarson (Jul 30, 2019 at 7:01)
Trail Expresso
Super fun. Great North Shore flava.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:57)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome rocky trail . worth the climb , but some berms are beat up.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:57)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome rocky trail . worth the climb , but some berms are beat up.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:57)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome rocky trail . worth the climb , but some berms are beat up.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:48)
Trail Kirkford
This is a good trail to learn to corner on a bike. And its awesome.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:46)
Awesome if you like ladders and flowy but rocky corners !
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Rileymajawa (Jul 15, 2019 at 18:33)
Impossible to get to from the Fromme road without riding terrible old school jank. Not a fun trail. More of unused double track than trail. Don’t ride
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scrisini (Jul 13, 2019 at 0:49)
Trail Leppard
What an awesome flowy trail ! A must !
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scrisini (Jul 13, 2019 at 0:49)
Trail Leppard
What an awesome flowy trail ! A must !
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scrisini (Jul 13, 2019 at 0:49)
Trail Leppard
What an awesome flowy trail ! A must !
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martyzaleski (Jun 5, 2019 at 11:56)
Trail Leppard
Fresh trail work in the mid-section this past weekend by Pete and BGC Engineering, just in time for this week's Fiver.
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martyzaleski (Jun 5, 2019 at 11:56)
Trail Leppard
Fresh trail work in the mid-section this past weekend by Pete and BGC Engineering, just in time for this week's Fiver.
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martyzaleski (Jun 5, 2019 at 11:56)
Trail Leppard
Fresh trail work in the mid-section this past weekend by Pete and BGC Engineering, just in time for this week's Fiver.
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JemSamonte (May 7, 2019 at 21:16)
Rode this trail after trying Expresso the 2nd time. Was very technical for me but was really fun. Walked most of the uphill part and some sketchy descent. You just have to be mindful since a lot of hikers are on this trail as well. Will definitely try again this weekend after pipeline or expresso.
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JemSamonte (May 7, 2019 at 21:16)
Rode this trail after trying Expresso the 2nd time. Was very technical for me but was really fun. Walked most of the uphill part and some sketchy descent. You just have to be mindful since a lot of hikers are on this trail as well. Will definitely try again this weekend after pipeline or expresso.
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JemSamonte (May 7, 2019 at 21:16)
Rode this trail after trying Expresso the 2nd time. Was very technical for me but was really fun. Walked most of the uphill part and some sketchy descent. You just have to be mindful since a lot of hikers are on this trail as well. Will definitely try again this weekend after pipeline or expresso.
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NSMBA NSMBA (Apr 29, 2019 at 16:31)
Please note that Lower Expresso will be closed from 8am-12pm on May 2nd, 2019 as the District of North Vancouver will be conducting a Wildfire training exercise.

If you have any questions, please contact info@nsmba.ca
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andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:44)
This is NOT a blue trail; it should be marked as black diamond. I ride blue trails almost exclusively with couple black ones thrown in, and this one is by far the hardest I've done. There are some "black" trail in Squamish and Seymour that are easier than this one.
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andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:44)
This is NOT a blue trail; it should be marked as black diamond. I ride blue trails almost exclusively with couple black ones thrown in, and this one is by far the hardest I've done. There are some "black" trail in Squamish and Seymour that are easier than this one.
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andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:44)
This is NOT a blue trail; it should be marked as black diamond. I ride blue trails almost exclusively with couple black ones thrown in, and this one is by far the hardest I've done. There are some "black" trail in Squamish and Seymour that are easier than this one.
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andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:48)
In fact, Expresso - black rated trail - is much easier than this one.
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andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:48)
In fact, Expresso - black rated trail - is much easier than this one.
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andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:48)
In fact, Expresso - black rated trail - is much easier than this one.
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martywis (Mar 25, 2019 at 8:51)
Trail Expresso
Hi Guys, I was riding Saturday around 4:00 and saw couple of guys on eBikes riding cross country through the woods (maybe crossing between Crippler and ESpresso)...
Unfortunately I did not manage to talk to them - but if anybody knows who they were or sees them again, please highlite that riding off trails with ebikes especially will cause damage to our sport and the fantastic location on the northshore.

btw. I am a eMTB rider as well... and there is more then enough fun on the perfect existing trails!

Please respect and share this attitude!!!!

Marty
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fredfmc1978 (Mar 9, 2019 at 15:45)
Rollercoaster is gone
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chris2 (Mar 21, 2019 at 11:36)
The rollercoaster is being rebuilt this year and is currently blocked off for construction.
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Edu888 (Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
Took the trail to go back to the parking lot after Espresso and I can safely say that this trail is significantly harder. Super steep rocky climbs lead to super steep rocky descents. The descents are really fun though.
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Edu888 (Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
Took the trail to go back to the parking lot after Espresso and I can safely say that this trail is significantly harder. Super steep rocky climbs lead to super steep rocky descents. The descents are really fun though.
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Edu888 (Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
Took the trail to go back to the parking lot after Espresso and I can safely say that this trail is significantly harder. Super steep rocky climbs lead to super steep rocky descents. The descents are really fun though.
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:28)
Trail Pipeline
A bit more challenging than expresso? Steeps a bit steeper. Iconic raised boardwalk with teeter totter and hairpin
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:27)
Trail Expresso
Great trail with good flow for the shore
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:25)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome trail in wet weather! Epic amount of armour and nothing too sketchy. Great start to Crinkum and Kirkford
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:25)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome trail in wet weather! Epic amount of armour and nothing too sketchy. Great start to Crinkum and Kirkford
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:25)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome trail in wet weather! Epic amount of armour and nothing too sketchy. Great start to Crinkum and Kirkford
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JacksonThack (Sep 3, 2018 at 10:00)
Trail Expresso
Awesome trail. Best bet for intermediate riders looking to explore higher up the mountain
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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:20)
Managed to clear as much of it as I could find. Thank Odin for tubeless tires tho Smile
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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:19)
Just a heads up all. There’s a significant amount of broken glass spread out on Kirkford beginning approx 20 feet after the initial wood roll-in. I’d like to think it wasn’t intentional but it came in a variety of colours and spread quite neatly.
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pitter (Aug 16, 2018 at 7:26)
Recent trail updates have significantly reduced the technical nature of this climb. As of August 2018 I the climb is smooth and steady.
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JacksonThack (Jul 30, 2018 at 8:56)
This trail is exceptionally technical with massive uphill rock gardens, steep stairs, and not much fun for me as an intermediate rider
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JacksonThack (Jul 30, 2018 at 8:56)
This trail is exceptionally technical with massive uphill rock gardens, steep stairs, and not much fun for me as an intermediate rider
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JacksonThack (Jul 30, 2018 at 8:56)
This trail is exceptionally technical with massive uphill rock gardens, steep stairs, and not much fun for me as an intermediate rider
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KevinStafford (Jul 19, 2018 at 19:50)
Trail Kirkford
I think I just found my new favorite trail
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georgeshumway (Jun 30, 2018 at 20:00)
Trail 7th Secret
Anyone know how this trail compares in terms of difficulty with expresso?
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georgeshumway (Jun 30, 2018 at 20:00)
Trail 7th Secret
Anyone know how this trail compares in terms of difficulty with expresso?
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georgeshumway (Jun 30, 2018 at 20:00)
Trail 7th Secret
Anyone know how this trail compares in terms of difficulty with expresso?
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nwareing (Jan 26, 2019 at 18:08)
Trail 7th Secret
Expresso is easier
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nwareing (Jan 26, 2019 at 18:08)
Trail 7th Secret
Expresso is easier
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nwareing (Jan 26, 2019 at 18:08)
Trail 7th Secret
Expresso is easier
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MKBERGEY1 (Jun 28, 2018 at 14:01)
Trail 7th Secret
7th is running so sweet ! ????????
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MKBERGEY1 (Jun 28, 2018 at 14:01)
Trail 7th Secret
7th is running so sweet ! ????????
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MKBERGEY1 (Jun 28, 2018 at 14:01)
Trail 7th Secret
7th is running so sweet ! ????????
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Arzt506 (Jun 4, 2018 at 19:23)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
This is a damn incredible trail. The roots are a beast to clean. So challenging. Also feels like you’re on an alien planet movie set. Super rad.

New work at the top is top notch
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natazhat (May 16, 2018 at 15:28)
Trail Pennzoil
With how much fun the Expresso / Lower Expresso combo is, Pennzoil is pretty disappointing these days. The trail is heavily eroded, and most people seem to stay away on their final descent back to Braemar. It would be pretty rad if this could someday see the same manicuring that Lower Expresso gets.
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KevinStafford (Apr 4, 2018 at 6:27)
Yeah, that was the blackest blue I've ever ridden. However, I had a great time rolling those steps and re enforced stone descents back to parking. Great trail in its own right.
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KevinStafford (Apr 4, 2018 at 6:27)
Yeah, that was the blackest blue I've ever ridden. However, I had a great time rolling those steps and re enforced stone descents back to parking. Great trail in its own right.
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KevinStafford (Apr 4, 2018 at 6:27)
Yeah, that was the blackest blue I've ever ridden. However, I had a great time rolling those steps and re enforced stone descents back to parking. Great trail in its own right.
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martywis (Mar 27, 2018 at 22:00)
Trail Pipeline
Good comment the last one!
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konarider112 (Mar 16, 2018 at 20:55)
This is the hardest blue trail I’ve ever ridden. Especially east to west; I had to push my bike.
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konarider112 (Mar 16, 2018 at 20:55)
This is the hardest blue trail I’ve ever ridden. Especially east to west; I had to push my bike.
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konarider112 (Mar 16, 2018 at 20:55)
This is the hardest blue trail I’ve ever ridden. Especially east to west; I had to push my bike.
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tonestar (Dec 27, 2017 at 0:53)
Tree down across trail about 100 yard below the St Mary's crossing. About 10-12" in diameter,
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chris-mcintyre (Sep 24, 2017 at 16:44)
Trail 7th Secret
One of the most if not the most amazing trail on the mountain! Definitely worth going up and shredding all the way down to Kirkford! This trail is a must when visiting Mt. Fromme!
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chris-mcintyre (Sep 24, 2017 at 16:44)
Trail 7th Secret
One of the most if not the most amazing trail on the mountain! Definitely worth going up and shredding all the way down to Kirkford! This trail is a must when visiting Mt. Fromme!
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chris-mcintyre (Sep 24, 2017 at 16:44)
Trail 7th Secret
One of the most if not the most amazing trail on the mountain! Definitely worth going up and shredding all the way down to Kirkford! This trail is a must when visiting Mt. Fromme!
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
Much harder than expected and quite challenging to ride east to west. Quite technical.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
Much harder than expected and quite challenging to ride east to west. Quite technical.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
Much harder than expected and quite challenging to ride east to west. Quite technical.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)
Trail 7th Secret
Accessible North Shore style trail that flows well through its fortified rocky technical sections. Really well built and loads of fun.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)
Trail 7th Secret
Accessible North Shore style trail that flows well through its fortified rocky technical sections. Really well built and loads of fun.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)
Trail 7th Secret
Accessible North Shore style trail that flows well through its fortified rocky technical sections. Really well built and loads of fun.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:27)
Trail Expresso
Pretty soft black as far as I'm concerned.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:27)
Trail Expresso
Fun mostly flow downhill with optional built up features.
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:26)
Trail Dempsey
Surprisingly technically challenging for a blue ascent trail.
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edwardbear (Aug 7, 2017 at 9:19)
Trail Leppard
thank you pete and giant........jim
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edwardbear (Aug 7, 2017 at 9:19)
Trail Leppard
thank you pete and giant........jim
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edwardbear (Aug 7, 2017 at 9:19)
Trail Leppard
thank you pete and giant........jim
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darcraver (Jul 24, 2017 at 14:26)
Trail Pipeline
"Considered one of the easier North Shore trails". Maybe 10-15 years ago...
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jayacheess (Jun 25, 2017 at 10:21)
Excellent addition to Fromme. Awesome work guys!
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Woodro WKTCS (Sep 26, 2016 at 6:56)
Trail St Mary's
Agreed and changed to blue
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Brando87 (Sep 25, 2016 at 14:51)
Trail St Mary's
Should be rated blue.
The only green trail is the climbing route.
Great ride.
Some pretty washed out root sections. Lots of boulders. Well marked area.
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leelau (Jun 4, 2016 at 20:18)
Trail Dreamweaver
A note to uphill climbers that a large chunk of this trail was used as a downhill route in the past and will be used by downhillers in the future. Keep your heads up going both ways
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leelau (Jun 4, 2016 at 20:17)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
A note to uphill climbers that a large chunk of this trail was used as a downhill route in the past and will likely be used by downhillers in the future. Keep your heads up going both ways
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Arzt506 (Jun 4, 2018 at 19:22) (Below Threshold) show comment
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Bud - this is an uphill only trail. Do you ever post anything without an agenda against the trailbuolding efforts of the nsmba? Never met you but you seem a bit obsessive and paranoid.
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leelau (Jun 4, 2018 at 20:23)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Do you know the history of this trail? Ie that this was a downhill trail? I've never met you but you seem to read things the wrong way.
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Arzt506 (Jun 4, 2018 at 22:10) (Below Threshold) show comment
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Sure. Doesn’t matter to me dude. I’m just saying it’s a great effort they did to turn this into a climbing trail. It is seriously kickass and a great xc climb option on fromme. Nobody cares that it used to be a DH trail - there are millions of better ones. People don’t ride this down anymore so your comment just seems like you’re tryig to undermine the work to turn this into a climb trail.
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leelau (Jun 4, 2018 at 23:21)
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Your opinion is irrelevant and you don't know what you're talking about. You're either Podo or a trained seal or some one else who drank a lot of koolaid. People ride down this trail whatever you think
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Arzt506 (Jun 5, 2018 at 16:36) (Below Threshold) show comment
Trail D'Yer Mak'er
Bro. Chill with your fake accounts downvoting my comments and upvoting yours. It’s just a trail. Don’t get all agro because you can’t clean it up hill in less than an hour.

Chill brother. We’re just riding bikes.
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j-tommy (Mar 22, 2015 at 16:54)
Trail 7th Secret
Beauty of a trail! First ride today, my first ride on the Shore... and it lived up to the hype. Even got to meet Pete, who I understand is the master builder on this beauty. The rock work is amazing! It was pretty busy up there, but everyone was in a good mood and very friendly. Overall a great ride.
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j-tommy (Mar 22, 2015 at 16:54)
Trail 7th Secret
Beauty of a trail! First ride today, my first ride on the Shore... and it lived up to the hype. Even got to meet Pete, who I understand is the master builder on this beauty. The rock work is amazing! It was pretty busy up there, but everyone was in a good mood and very friendly. Overall a great ride.
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j-tommy (Mar 22, 2015 at 16:54)
Trail 7th Secret
Beauty of a trail! First ride today, my first ride on the Shore... and it lived up to the hype. Even got to meet Pete, who I understand is the master builder on this beauty. The rock work is amazing! It was pretty busy up there, but everyone was in a good mood and very friendly. Overall a great ride.
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adove (Oct 27, 2014 at 10:39)
A good amount of work was done on October 26th by the Lynn Valley Bikes/NSMBA TAP volunteers at the bottom intersection with Lower Griffen. Very nice for climbing now!
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  • Ridelogs
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More Stats for 7th Secret 3 Ways mountain bike route
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    797 ft
  • Altitude start
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  • Altitude end
    1,119 ft
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  • Grade min
    70.4%
  • Distance climb
    12 miles
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