7.5 miles
Distance
1,730 ft
Climb
-1,762 ft
Descent
2,542 ft
High Point

A classic Fromme lap. Simple climb on fireroad followed by an epic North Shore descent that will tale the fastest riders 20+ minutes but the descent could easily take you an hour if you are taking your time, sessioning things and looking at your trailforks app. A great variety of new school and old school riding. Enjoy This is one of the best laps on Fromme.

Detailed Description
7th Secret, Leppard, Crinkum Crankum, Griffen is a 8 mile popular expert route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a hard overall physical rating. This route includes 21 trails. This route climbs 1,730 ft with a max elevation of 2,542 ft then descends -1,762 ft.
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46 Reviews & Comments

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ruminates (Nov 23, 2022 at 20:08)
Trail 7th Secret
still snow free
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tadamszz5 (Nov 9, 2022 at 13:58)
Trail Leppard
Snow at the trail head, but rideable.
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marclangasque (Oct 15, 2022 at 3:24)
Trail Kirkford
Good trace! Not too difficult and really fun!
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drdbnd (Aug 15, 2022 at 8:34)
Trail Kirkford
Resent gold dirt work has really improved the trail. Running best it’s been in years. Thanks to Sarah, Markus, and Thomas for their hard work.
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NikkiA (Jul 9, 2022 at 13:44)
Trail Kirkford
Thanks to the crew for all of the fresh trail work. It's running great!
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northshoregurl (May 30, 2022 at 1:23)
Trail 7th Secret
It is soooo worth the climb. What a sweet trail.
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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 19:24)
From looking at the really rocky sections I thought they would be really bumpy but, if you go at speed they are actually quite smooth
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Superepicguy264 (May 3, 2022 at 14:33)
Trail Kirkford
This trail had some REALLy tight berms that felt like they were dug into the ground
the dirt walls go up near your shoulders at some parts
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corerider (Oct 11, 2021 at 18:18)
Trail Kirkford
How this is still rated a black diamond is beyond me. The endless switchbacks are a waste of good vertical that the old trail had in spades.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:09)
Trail Kirkford
Tight switchbacks. Good trail to learn bike control on and is a pretty chill trail excluding the log ride.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 26, 2021 at 12:07)
One of the best trails on fromme. Steep rock switchbacks and at the end, there is a fun wooden ladder part.
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Mcyeetus (Sep 25, 2021 at 16:40)
Trail 7th Secret
My favorite trail on fromme. Such a good mix of tech, features, and flow. Awesome trail worth the climb for sure!
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colchilibeck (Aug 21, 2021 at 11:39)
Trail 7th Secret
Really amazing trail. I Ben in the wet there is still lots of grip.
A note to fast riders, don’t try passing slower riders while they are moving through techy/rocky steep turns. It ruins the experience when you bail because someone decides to blow by you. Just give a shout and pass when safe to do so!! We are all there to have fun. Keep those maneuvers for a race day!
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Wesmacaulay FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 23:44)
Trail 7th Secret
Rock work is astonishing. I can’t even think of all the hours of work put into the construction of this trail. Epic.
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liamdubs (Jun 4, 2021 at 23:02)
Trail Kirkford
I rode this trail a lot before I saw the optional line just before the log ride. I recommend you keep your eye out for it!
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vinnie03 (Apr 8, 2021 at 17:02)
Trail Kirkford
The start of the trail is a lot of fun why so many switchbacks? That's just a waste of terrain.
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Nickapm (Feb 28, 2021 at 23:44)
Did this my first day mountain biking! Great track very fun! If you take it slow enough anyone can do it! I did walk one section but other than that was a blast!
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Dannyjean (Aug 3, 2020 at 11:50)
Trail 7th Secret
Absolute stellar trail. Worth that little extra climb FOR SURE
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ShannonHalliday (Jul 12, 2020 at 18:46)
Found my new favorite trail
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 20:07)
Great blue tech trail, if you have done trails like bobsled and your wondering what some rocks and roots feel like I would recommend this trail as its kinda XC and not too steep but still lots of fun. Just be weary of going to middle griffen as it isnt in that good of condition now a days and has some very tight corners and even a non-roll drop(which you dont usually see on blue trails but is clearly indicated by the huge amount of scrape marks from people's gears and pedals). I would recommend taking a right and going down king of the shore if you are a more beginner rider.
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:59)
Trail Kirkford
Awesome trail, some steep and techy parts but also alot of really nice flow and LOTS of tight corners. Great front break and cornering practice and honestly cant wait to ride it again!
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JTJ10 (Apr 24, 2020 at 19:57)
Awesome trail but beware of tight, rocky and sometimes quite steep corners(not very blue votes aside). Still overall sick trail and great for getting better at rocky corners! Most of the other TTFs have a ride around.
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curvedwallride (Mar 15, 2020 at 11:59)
Icy half way through.
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ridestuff (Nov 11, 2019 at 21:39)
Trail Kirkford
F*cking crazy trail! I’ll be dizzy till I ride it again...
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:57)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome rocky trail . worth the climb , but some berms are beat up.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:48)
Trail Kirkford
This is a good trail to learn to corner on a bike. And its awesome.
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bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:46)
Awesome if you like ladders and flowy but rocky corners !
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scrisini (Jul 13, 2019 at 0:49)
Trail Leppard
What an awesome flowy trail ! A must !
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martyzaleski (Jun 5, 2019 at 11:56)
Trail Leppard
Fresh trail work in the mid-section this past weekend by Pete and BGC Engineering, just in time for this week's Fiver.
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haimz (May 22, 2019 at 22:38)
Terrific Fromme lap
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:25)
Trail 7th Secret
Awesome trail in wet weather! Epic amount of armour and nothing too sketchy. Great start to Crinkum and Kirkford
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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:20)
Managed to clear as much of it as I could find. Thank Odin for tubeless tires tho Smile
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rippingnoles (Aug 31, 2018 at 18:19)
Just a heads up all. There’s a significant amount of broken glass spread out on Kirkford beginning approx 20 feet after the initial wood roll-in. I’d like to think it wasn’t intentional but it came in a variety of colours and spread quite neatly.
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MKBERGEY1 (Aug 17, 2018 at 10:40)
????????????
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KevinStafford (Jul 19, 2018 at 19:50)
Trail Kirkford
I think I just found my new favorite trail
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georgeshumway (Jun 30, 2018 at 20:00)
Trail 7th Secret
Anyone know how this trail compares in terms of difficulty with expresso?
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nwareing (Jan 26, 2019 at 18:08)
Trail 7th Secret
Expresso is easier
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MKBERGEY1 (Jun 28, 2018 at 14:01)
Trail 7th Secret
7th is running so sweet ! ????????
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chris-mcintyre (Sep 24, 2017 at 16:44)
Trail 7th Secret
One of the most if not the most amazing trail on the mountain! Definitely worth going up and shredding all the way down to Kirkford! This trail is a must when visiting Mt. Fromme!
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Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:29)
Trail 7th Secret
Accessible North Shore style trail that flows well through its fortified rocky technical sections. Really well built and loads of fun.
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edwardbear (Aug 7, 2017 at 9:19)
Trail Leppard
thank you pete and giant........jim
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Kai20007691 (Jul 15, 2017 at 20:12)
Awesome!!!
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j-tommy (Mar 22, 2015 at 16:54)
Trail 7th Secret
Beauty of a trail! First ride today, my first ride on the Shore... and it lived up to the hype. Even got to meet Pete, who I understand is the master builder on this beauty. The rock work is amazing! It was pretty busy up there, but everyone was in a good mood and very friendly. Overall a great ride.
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  • Riding area
  • Primary Activity
    Mountain Bike
  • Difficulty rating
    Black Diamond
  • Route Type
    Loop
  • Bike type
    AM, XC
  • Direction
    One Direction
  • Physical rating
    Hard
  • Ridelogs
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More Stats for 7th Secret, Leppard, Crinkum Crankum, Griffen mountain bike route
  • Altitude min
    827 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,129 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,096 ft
  • Grade
    -0.1%
  • Grade max
    -45.9%
  • Grade min
    46%
  • Distance climb
    5 miles
  • Distance down
    3 miles
  • Distance flat
    587 ft
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Recent Trail Reports Along Route

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7th Secret
Jan 29, 2023 @ 2:29pm
7 hours
Braid starting to trench on the last corner. Blocked for now but could use a better fix. reporter
Mountain Highway
Jan 28, 2023 @ 10:45am
1 day
Basically clear until after 7th reporter
Leppard
Jan 25, 2023 @ 8:50pm
Jan 25, 2023
Just a few snowy patches up top on the bridge and some woodwork. Riding well otherwise!
Kirkford
Jan 22, 2023 @ 12:32pm
Jan 22, 2023
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Jan 22, 2023 @ 4:32am
Jan 22, 2023
One buddy right hander otherwise fine reporter
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