4.5 miles
Distance
855 ft
Climb
-1,123 ft
Descent
1,399 ft
High Point

a route for Rocky Mountain lunch rides

Detailed Description
AC - Menard is a 4 mile moderately popular intermediate route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route. This route includes 20 trails. This route climbs 855 ft with a max elevation of 1,399 ft then descends -1,123 ft.
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79 Reviews & Comments

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MarkAdamson (Sep 10, 2022 at 15:09)
Lost my tool pouch at the top of GSM on Saturday September 3rd. Black rubber with a green zip. Souvenir from Moab. Would love to hear from you if you picked it up. 604 839 3579.
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MarkAdamson (Sep 10, 2022 at 15:09)
Lost my tool pouch at the top of GSM on Saturday September 3rd. Black rubber with a green zip. Souvenir from Moab. Would love to hear from you if you picked it up. 604 839 3579.
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xaibeeh (Sep 6, 2022 at 7:44)
It’s either not a green climb or it’s in very bad shape. I went with a begginer able to clear all good sir martin climb, but had to walk this one.
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cuartodorado (Jul 10, 2022 at 18:14)
I lost my googles today 10-07-22 around 11:00 am, I believe on this trail (or Old Buck to connect with Badew Powell) on my way up to take John Deer. Please send me a message if you found them, thanks.
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cuartodorado (Jul 10, 2022 at 18:14)
I lost my googles today 10-07-22 around 11:00 am, I believe on this trail (or Old Buck to connect with Badew Powell) on my way up to take John Deer. Please send me a message if you found them, thanks.
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conrad-hoc (Jul 6, 2022 at 10:06)
Rode a section of this today for the first time. Climbed GSM and wanted to get to Forever After, so we took Baden Powell. BP to Severed D was pretty fun. More black than blue, in my opinion. From Severed towards Forever it got even steeper and more treacherous. You've been warned!
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conrad-hoc (Jul 6, 2022 at 10:06)
Rode a section of this today for the first time. Climbed GSM and wanted to get to Forever After, so we took Baden Powell. BP to Severed D was pretty fun. More black than blue, in my opinion. From Severed towards Forever it got even steeper and more treacherous. You've been warned!
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xaibeeh (Apr 27, 2022 at 19:53)
Any plans to do this trail rideable from Hyannis to forever after area? Would open a new world of possibilities! I’m in to help build something to make this climb good enough to not want to die
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subieoutlaw (Feb 13, 2022 at 16:06)
Fun fun fun. Smooth and fast XC trail.
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liamdubs (Feb 9, 2022 at 20:40)
The direction is basically wrong. It is 100% unrideable from forever after to severed upwards, but is a spicy treat downwards.
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liamdubs (Feb 9, 2022 at 20:40)
The direction is basically wrong. It is 100% unrideable from forever after to severed upwards, but is a spicy treat downwards.
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conrad-hoc (Nov 24, 2021 at 22:47)
Yeah, good climbing trail, although it's humbling when there are parts of this GREEN trail that I can't do clean. Oh well, I am kind of a beginner and definitely suck at climbing!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 20, 2021 at 19:37)
Fun and enjoyable climb.
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Mcyeetus (Oct 20, 2021 at 19:37)
Fun and enjoyable climb.
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conrad-hoc (Oct 14, 2021 at 11:33)
great trail. fun to learn on. I like that its a loop
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:49)
Fun little climb with a wood feature and uphill rock roll.
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:49)
Tough climb coming east!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:49)
Tough climb coming east!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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Kazuaki (Aug 19, 2021 at 18:33)
I’d rate it a dark blue on the downhill parts. And full black on the uphill parts. I gotta get better at climbing!
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liamdubs (Jul 17, 2021 at 21:28)
Please make sure to ring the bell at the intersection of John Deer and Good Sir Martin. If you don't ring the bell your strava/trailforks ride will NOT record this trail. It's real important to ring the bell.
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liamdubs (Jul 17, 2021 at 21:28)
Please make sure to ring the bell at the intersection of John Deer and Good Sir Martin. If you don't ring the bell your strava/trailforks ride will NOT record this trail. It's real important to ring the bell.
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kyleluvsdh (Feb 11, 2021 at 22:30)
We should really adopt the New Zealand trail grading system in Canada. It bridges the gap nicely between between 'hard blue's' and 'easy black's'. Windrock Bike Park, TN. Adopted the NZ grading system in the past year as well. It makes sense. Here's what it would look like:

NZ Trail Grading System:

Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
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taprider (Feb 6, 2021 at 21:38)
Going up from the west side should be the new Impossible Climb Challenge for Pink Bike.
Just try to clean it without puking, actually great Type 2 Fun, I highly recommend it
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DHDH (Jan 26, 2021 at 16:58)
Has about 5” of medium-pack snow on it.
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Elmeffe (Oct 2, 2020 at 10:46)
These comments are no joke. Avoid climbing from Hyannis at all cost.
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krisrawl00 (Sep 22, 2020 at 16:02)
Trail Penny Lane
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krisrawl00 (Sep 22, 2020 at 16:02)
Trail Penny Lane
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Valkandoit (Sep 5, 2020 at 14:21)
Went down this hill and it was not a nice ride. Loose rock and not beautiful or peaceful. Wouldn’t take this path again!
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pinker001 (Aug 26, 2020 at 10:31)
Challenging and enjoyable. The trail is pretty steep in some sections with tight switchbacks at steep grade with some rocks to traverse coming through the switchbacks. Physically and technically challenging. I find myself clipping rocks with my pedals and have yet to ride the whole thing without putting a foot down, but I’ll keep trying.
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pinker001 (Aug 26, 2020 at 10:31)
Challenging and enjoyable. The trail is pretty steep in some sections with tight switchbacks at steep grade with some rocks to traverse coming through the switchbacks. Physically and technically challenging. I find myself clipping rocks with my pedals and have yet to ride the whole thing without putting a foot down, but I’ll keep trying.
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Dukechillington (Jun 29, 2020 at 22:48)
Awesome trail! Less busy then other areas and super fun on an e-bike with it’s XC flow. Rode on a wet day after almost dying on Dales (no, seriously!) thinking Forever After would be more of the same but was pleasantly surprised!
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bboyshredder (Mar 20, 2020 at 8:35)
Don't get tricked by how it looks on the map its very steep and long don't go up it trust me I tried to and I almost died.
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rockfears (Mar 9, 2020 at 23:32)
Should have read the comments before trying to climb this trail... steeeeeeep!!!! Almost impossible to reach the top without pushing!
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Twotterguy SHORE CORPS (Dec 15, 2019 at 10:08)
Trail RT Connector
Got it, thanks to the folks that helped get it off the trail!
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0ut5ide (Nov 24, 2019 at 17:00)
Nice conditions today. Good grip on the rocks. Just a few puddles.
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jjanetka (Aug 30, 2019 at 20:21)
Great trail. Nice ride from 2nd switchback parking lot from Corkscrew to Mushroom to Dales to Forever. Yes, probably deserves the black - a few spots are a little tricky if you are going slower (I'm sure the faster just float over this rough stuff). Not a flashy trail but still a good ride.
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bboyshredder (Aug 28, 2019 at 17:50)
I love this trail . if you hate climbing stick to the old buck because its way shorter. but its awesome and smooth but penny lane isn't witch is before good sir Martin. not good for bigginer climbers .
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bboyshredder (Aug 28, 2019 at 17:50)
I love this trail . if you hate climbing stick to the old buck because its way shorter. but its awesome and smooth but penny lane isn't witch is before good sir Martin. not good for bigginer climbers .
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Mike1001 (Aug 14, 2019 at 21:33)
This is basically a hike a bike trail for at least half of it.... the bikeable part is just a boring connector to other bikeable trails
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Mike1001 (Aug 14, 2019 at 21:33)
This is basically a hike a bike trail for at least half of it.... the bikeable part is just a boring connector to other bikeable trails
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dirtbiker100 (Jul 19, 2019 at 22:31)
For visiting riders - don't try going up this one from the valley bottom...
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ataraxie (Jun 9, 2019 at 22:30)
Forever After is my favorite trail on Seymour! I like how it's mostly downhill with a few XC sections in between. It makes it seem a loong ride! I think it deserves the black rating. It's harder than other black ones like Corkskrew in my opinion.
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javabk (Jun 4, 2019 at 20:52)
This is mostly hike a bike trail
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javabk (Jun 4, 2019 at 20:52)
This is mostly hike a bike trail
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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MKBERGEY1 (Mar 30, 2019 at 17:27)
Ride well and Sheeeessssss nice!! ????????
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MKBERGEY1 (Mar 30, 2019 at 17:27)
Ride well and Sheeeessssss nice!! ????????
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jalee (Mar 13, 2019 at 23:21)
Such a good trail. Has the most diversity of the trails I routinely ride on the shore. Mixed technical XC and all mountain. It’s a blast through beautiful forest. I would say a must ride after Dale’s, in addition to Pangor my other favourite on Seymour
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:29)
Nice technical climbing alternative
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:29)
Nice technical climbing alternative
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rskibobirney (Jul 15, 2018 at 18:57)
Ridiculously good fun, well-maintained trail. Starting with a couple of banked turns, you’re thrown into fast rolling trail with a couple of small drops. Suitable for newbies (like me) and I’m sure would still be fun for experienced riders.
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Shokunin (Sep 11, 2017 at 20:06)
I'm new to the shore, but this trail was so hard for a blue. Even compared to some other blues in the area.
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paulbc (Sep 11, 2017 at 20:26)
You're not the only one who thinks that. Last summer, there was a piece of tape on the entrance sign, right under the word "Harder", that said "...than any other blue trail". Call it navy blue.
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Shokunin (Sep 13, 2017 at 20:07)
Good to know I'm not the only one Smile The trail looks a lot more mellow in that video from 2014 too.
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WilliamCornock (Mar 4, 2018 at 14:33)
Was just up there yesterday and it had a black diamond on the sign. They must have changed it quite recently.
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DMal SHORE CORPS (Dec 24, 2015 at 9:16)
Trail Penny Lane
Possibly my favourite section of the Seymour climb. The corners are open enough that you can get some good uphill flow going. And it takes you right to the rowdy part of Severed, perfect for tacking a little bit more onto the end of a ride.
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DMal SHORE CORPS (Dec 24, 2015 at 9:16)
Trail Penny Lane
Possibly my favourite section of the Seymour climb. The corners are open enough that you can get some good uphill flow going. And it takes you right to the rowdy part of Severed, perfect for tacking a little bit more onto the end of a ride.
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Sharonb (Nov 15, 2015 at 18:33)
Trail Pussyfoot
nice!
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meloroast (Oct 15, 2015 at 13:44)
this trail rides like a dream. absolutely love it! great work!!
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meloroast (Oct 15, 2015 at 13:44)
this trail rides like a dream. absolutely love it! great work!!
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CRich78 (Aug 10, 2015 at 16:03)
Phenomenal climbing trail. Thanks for all the beautiful work Martin and Penny. Rode GSM for the first time today and enjoyed every inch of it. It's so great to be able to loop back to Baden without having to head over to Old Buck or Hyannis. Awesome. I'll definitely be heading up to ride some Seymour loops more often. Thanks again!
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CRich78 (Aug 10, 2015 at 16:03)
Phenomenal climbing trail. Thanks for all the beautiful work Martin and Penny. Rode GSM for the first time today and enjoyed every inch of it. It's so great to be able to loop back to Baden without having to head over to Old Buck or Hyannis. Awesome. I'll definitely be heading up to ride some Seymour loops more often. Thanks again!
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bikejunky (Jul 23, 2015 at 10:10)
Stung. Twice. Ouch. Great trail nonetheless.
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bikejunky (Jul 23, 2015 at 10:10)
Stung. Twice. Ouch. Great trail nonetheless.
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DMal SHORE CORPS (Jul 13, 2015 at 10:20)
Great climbing trail. It climbs through a beautiful part of the forest, and the grade is nice and moderate.
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DMal SHORE CORPS (Jul 13, 2015 at 10:20)
Great climbing trail. It climbs through a beautiful part of the forest, and the grade is nice and moderate.
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moballa (Jul 12, 2015 at 21:01)
My son and I rode Good Sir this morning which allowed us to do a couple of laps up there which doesn't happen often for us. The trail meanders beautifully through pristine forest and feels like it's been there forever - a testament to the fantastic engineering and careful planning that went into this right down to the precise fern transplanting! "Isn't this awesome!" was echoed by many of the other excited riders we encountered along the trail today. Congratulations Martin and Penny and to all the other volunteers! Good Sir Martin will be one of the most enjoyed trails on the north shore.
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moballa (Jul 12, 2015 at 21:01)
My son and I rode Good Sir this morning which allowed us to do a couple of laps up there which doesn't happen often for us. The trail meanders beautifully through pristine forest and feels like it's been there forever - a testament to the fantastic engineering and careful planning that went into this right down to the precise fern transplanting! "Isn't this awesome!" was echoed by many of the other excited riders we encountered along the trail today. Congratulations Martin and Penny and to all the other volunteers! Good Sir Martin will be one of the most enjoyed trails on the north shore.
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frenchfriedfun (Jul 10, 2015 at 15:34)
the Christmas corner is sick ! and the bunch after that too..
sick trail
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frenchfriedfun (Jul 10, 2015 at 15:34)
the Christmas corner is sick ! and the bunch after that too..
sick trail
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trevmillion (Aug 29, 2014 at 17:35)
very fun XC trail. Minimal roots, some small drops and a lot of rolling terrain. Well maintained
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canadaka Trailforks (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:56)
This section gps'ed on Seymour is mostly all rideable. The section from "Old Buck" to the Powerlines was upgraded last winter for an easier climb and is used a lot.

The descent portion from the powerlines to the "BP to Powerline Connector" was upgraded for the BC Bike Race. The trail after this point is not rideable, it gets very steep with steps. Once it hits "Bridle Path" its rideable again.
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canadaka Trailforks (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:56)
This section gps'ed on Seymour is mostly all rideable. The section from "Old Buck" to the Powerlines was upgraded last winter for an easier climb and is used a lot.

The descent portion from the powerlines to the "BP to Powerline Connector" was upgraded for the BC Bike Race. The trail after this point is not rideable, it gets very steep with steps. Once it hits "Bridle Path" its rideable again.
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trevmillion (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:17)
how much of this trail can you ride bike on?
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trevmillion (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:17)
how much of this trail can you ride bike on?
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More Stats for AC - Menard mountain bike route
  • Altitude change
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  • Altitude min
    536 ft
  • Altitude start
    805 ft
  • Altitude end
    535 ft
  • Grade
    -1.1%
  • Grade max
    -71.1%
  • Grade min
    56.4%
  • Distance climb
    2 miles
  • Distance down
    2 miles
  • Distance flat
    2,116 ft
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Bridle Path
Dec 3, 2022 @ 10:20am
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Tree at exit of John Deer cleared Trail is mix of compact frozen snow, ice. Rideable. If hiking or running, recommend spikes
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Good Sir Martin
Nov 30, 2022 @ 1:18pm
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Below the John Deer junction is soft & slushy snow. Above is colder & better to pedal. If you see debris on the trails, please clear or report on Trailforks
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