11.4 miles
Distance
2,369 ft
Climb
-2,373 ft
Descent
1,817 ft
High Point
A TIME TRIAL – Day 5, The legendary North Shore will be executed in a Time Trial format; Riders will be released in small timed intervals. Though short in length, the burly nature of the North Shore makes these kilometers technical.
A classic roll out along the scenic Indian River Road before climbing up the Baden Powell trail to the Upper Old Buck. This will take riders upwards quickly to the first descent: Corkscrew, PINGU, after which the climbing carries on, double track to the power lines, and its the now famous first BCBR descent: Upper Severed D, Baden Powell, across After Taste and into Forever After and finally High School, the total on this descent is nearly 4km’s long.
From here you will wind your way upwards through some residential neighborhoods, an easy way to gain some elevation and rest your body. Once we plunge back into the forest the fun begins again – as you cross the first bridge the tech-gnar is on; Bridal Path across to the Academy Trail starts your second climb, R and T Connector, then Pussy Foot all taking you to the amazing climb of the Good Sir Martin Trail. Revel in the beauty of the forest around you – this is how hand-made trails should be. When the climb flattens out, you turn right onto the new revamped Jon Deere trail (thanks Martin and Penny for all the amazing work) pump, flow and enjoy this is heaven. Once you hit the bottom you will turn left onto the rough Bridal Path, then right down a fast and scary Empress Bypass – all the way home for another great celebration.
Detailed Description
BCBikeRace 2017 - Day 5 - North Vancouver is a 11 mile expert race route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route. This route includes 29 trails. This route climbs 2,369 ft with a max elevation of 1,817 ft then descends -2,373 ft.
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EliasNunes3
(Jan 15, 2023 at 14:37)
Trail Old Buck
Would probably just take the road up instead. After the Baden Powell and especially after the power line trail it is almost impossible unless you are a very good climber.
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theshonen8899
(Sep 12, 2022 at 14:01)
(Sep 12, 2022 at 14:01)
Trail Empress Bypass
Super fun little flow trail. Great for getting beginners hooked on flow.
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theshonen8899
(Sep 12, 2022 at 13:59)
(Sep 12, 2022 at 13:59)
Trail John Deer
A guy at the trailhead told me this trail was "easy, fun, and flowy." I actually found it quite challenging, with 2-3 steep areas and many, many roots. Not a black but definitely more challenging than something like Half Nelson. I loved it but my more beginner-intermediate gf was having trouble.
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MarkAdamson
(Sep 10, 2022 at 15:09)
(Sep 10, 2022 at 15:09)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Lost my tool pouch at the top of GSM on Saturday September 3rd. Black rubber with a green zip. Souvenir from Moab. Would love to hear from you if you picked it up. 604 839 3579.
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xaibeeh
(Sep 6, 2022 at 7:44)
Trail Academy Climb
It’s either not a green climb or it’s in very bad shape. I went with a begginer able to clear all good sir martin climb, but had to walk this one.
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cuartodorado
(Jul 10, 2022 at 18:14)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
I lost my googles today 10-07-22 around 11:00 am, I believe on this trail (or Old Buck to connect with Badew Powell) on my way up to take John Deer. Please send me a message if you found them, thanks.
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LucaBruca
(Jul 6, 2022 at 16:21)
(Jul 6, 2022 at 16:21)
Trail Empress Bypass
I lost my wallet somewhere along here today. If anybody finds a brown leather wallet please call 604-619-6084 - Luc
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conrad-hoc
(Jul 6, 2022 at 10:06)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
Rode a section of this today for the first time. Climbed GSM and wanted to get to Forever After, so we took Baden Powell. BP to Severed D was pretty fun. More black than blue, in my opinion. From Severed towards Forever it got even steeper and more treacherous. You've been warned!
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xaibeeh
(Apr 27, 2022 at 19:53)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
Any plans to do this trail rideable from Hyannis to forever after area? Would open a new world of possibilities! I’m in to help build something to make this climb good enough to not want to die
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subieoutlaw
(Feb 13, 2022 at 16:06)
Trail High School League
Fun fun fun. Smooth and fast XC trail.
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liamdubs
(Feb 9, 2022 at 20:40)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
The direction is basically wrong. It is 100% unrideable from forever after to severed upwards, but is a spicy treat downwards.
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conrad-hoc
(Nov 24, 2021 at 22:47)
Trail Academy Climb
Yeah, good climbing trail, although it's humbling when there are parts of this GREEN trail that I can't do clean. Oh well, I am kind of a beginner and definitely suck at climbing!
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conrad-hoc
(Oct 14, 2021 at 11:33)
Trail High School League
great trail. fun to learn on. I like that its a loop
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conrad-hoc
(Oct 13, 2021 at 13:58)
Trail Ridge Trail
Kinda janky. Lot of roots, but not steep. It's quite the ground cover of roots at the end near Hyannis. Definitely not the smoothest or most leisurely route down from HSL to Hyannis, but it works.
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adnauseam
(Oct 8, 2021 at 15:37)
(Oct 8, 2021 at 15:37)
Trail Applicator
Difficult to find. The trailhead sign is facing the wrong direction for those looking for it on the way down. The mapb doesn't show it but the first bit is a moderately technical climb peaking at a large rock. Pretty chunky going down for a few sections all in a row. A harder black trail.
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Mcyeetus
(Oct 2, 2021 at 21:49)
Trail Academy Climb
Fun little climb with a wood feature and uphill rock roll.
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Mcyeetus
(Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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cannae
(Sep 28, 2021 at 10:45)
(Sep 28, 2021 at 10:45)
Trail Applicator
I would love to ride this trail but it seems impossible to find
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Kazuaki
(Aug 19, 2021 at 18:33)
(Aug 19, 2021 at 18:33)
Trail Forever After
I’d rate it a dark blue on the downhill parts. And full black on the uphill parts. I gotta get better at climbing!
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liamdubs
(Jul 17, 2021 at 21:41)
Trail Shorn Scrotum
It's like a chicken line to the right just before severed D gets steeper for a bit - but it takes you out onto penny lane. If you want to resume severed D, climb up Penny lane again and resume.
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liamdubs
(Jul 17, 2021 at 21:28)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Please make sure to ring the bell at the intersection of John Deer and Good Sir Martin. If you don't ring the bell your strava/trailforks ride will NOT record this trail. It's real important to ring the bell.
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braydenharris
(Jun 26, 2021 at 9:38)
Trail Empress Bypass
This is possibly better Than Boogie Nights. It's soooo good!
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liamdubs
(Jun 23, 2021 at 21:05)
Trail Applicator
Folks who rated this trail low don’t appreciate the good things in life. A short trail thats easy to session , features steep rocks and roots. Its a bundle of fun, probably treacherous in the wet. The entrance is hard to find, but its a steep technical climb from the the bottom of pussyfoot where a bunch of trails intersect.
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corerider
(Nov 7, 2021 at 8:18)
Trail Applicator
This trail actually is one of my favourites on Seymour. I mostly push UP it to do it. Short but well worth it.
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northshoresteve
(Jun 8, 2021 at 19:01)
(Jun 8, 2021 at 19:01)
Trail Empress Bypass
Awesome little trail. It’s similar to Half Nelson in Squamish, but only one fifth the length. We need more of these on the Shore!
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octet
(Feb 27, 2021 at 20:53)
Trail Old Buck
A bit stiff, but also the fastest ride to the top of corkscrew or CBC, IMO. Good Sir Martin is more twisty and detours out of the way, and straight up Buck cuts off a loop on Mtn. Highway. GSM is good for the second lap, since you are already over near Academy, etc.
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kyleluvsdh
(Feb 11, 2021 at 22:30)
Trail Forever After
We should really adopt the New Zealand trail grading system in Canada. It bridges the gap nicely between between 'hard blue's' and 'easy black's'. Windrock Bike Park, TN. Adopted the NZ grading system in the past year as well. It makes sense. Here's what it would look like:
NZ Trail Grading System:
Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
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NZ Trail Grading System:
Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
taprider
(Feb 6, 2021 at 21:38)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
Going up from the west side should be the new Impossible Climb Challenge for Pink Bike.
Just try to clean it without puking, actually great Type 2 Fun, I highly recommend it
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Just try to clean it without puking, actually great Type 2 Fun, I highly recommend it
DHDH
(Jan 26, 2021 at 16:58)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
Has about 5” of medium-pack snow on it.
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Elmeffe
(Oct 2, 2020 at 10:46)
(Oct 2, 2020 at 10:46)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
These comments are no joke. Avoid climbing from Hyannis at all cost.
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JScooter604
(Oct 1, 2020 at 11:30)
Trail Power Line
Flowy, fast and fun. Couple optional jumps make it great. Better option than incline
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Valkandoit
(Sep 5, 2020 at 14:21)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
Went down this hill and it was not a nice ride. Loose rock and not beautiful or peaceful. Wouldn’t take this path again!
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pinker001
(Aug 26, 2020 at 10:31)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Challenging and enjoyable. The trail is pretty steep in some sections with tight switchbacks at steep grade with some rocks to traverse coming through the switchbacks. Physically and technically challenging. I find myself clipping rocks with my pedals and have yet to ride the whole thing without putting a foot down, but I’ll keep trying.
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Coasterby
(Jul 18, 2020 at 13:35)
Trail Empress Bypass
Tons of fun, smooth and windy with nice decent.
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Dukechillington
(Jun 29, 2020 at 22:48)
(Jun 29, 2020 at 22:48)
Trail Forever After
Awesome trail! Less busy then other areas and super fun on an e-bike with it’s XC flow. Rode on a wet day after almost dying on Dales (no, seriously!) thinking Forever After would be more of the same but was pleasantly surprised!
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bboyshredder
(Mar 20, 2020 at 8:35)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
Don't get tricked by how it looks on the map its very steep and long don't go up it trust me I tried to and I almost died.
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kyleluvsdh
(Mar 13, 2020 at 18:56)
Trail Incline
I don't understand the negative ratings. I've seen this track ridden in a Boostmaster video. And it looks super raw, natural, chunky and gnarly. To each their own. But I love natural, primitive type tracks and sections, they're unique. This tracks on my wishlist 169%
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rockfears
(Mar 9, 2020 at 23:32)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
Should have read the comments before trying to climb this trail... steeeeeeep!!!! Almost impossible to reach the top without pushing!
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lvshore103
(Mar 7, 2020 at 22:05)
(Mar 7, 2020 at 22:05)
Trail Pingu
Thanks for clarifying Joe, and for the good work on the trail. The drop is certainly more solid now and will last a while! Only problem is, I think, that it's done so well that it blends in and one (or i at least) can't tell that something has changed until one's right upon it (or below it
. So I put the comment for anyone else who follows their old lines, like me and might get surprised. And yes, there is a good ride-around, as well as a line to roll it.
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. So I put the comment for anyone else who follows their old lines, like me and might get surprised. And yes, there is a good ride-around, as well as a line to roll it.
lvshore103
(Feb 29, 2020 at 19:36)
(Feb 29, 2020 at 19:36)
Trail Pingu
Danger: 3rd drop from the top had been modified and is now higher. I've ridden this trail 100s of times and never had a problem rollong over all drops. Now it seems that there's been some work on the 3rd one from the top and, if taken in the middle, it's become a mandatory jump. There is no warning, and the modification is not obvious from above. There is still an OK roll line on the side, but you have to know it. If you're not OK jumping it, it's best to approach with caution!
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joewoywitka
NSMBA (Mar 7, 2020 at 19:33)
Trail Pingu
That line had been a mandatory drop for the majority of the trails history. The old log that supported the trail had rotted away (making it roll-able) and the trail was ready to collapse: m.pinkbike.com/photo/18368337
I cribbed in the drop with a new piece of cedar to retain the trail and bring it back to its former state. You can see what it used to look like in older photos: ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb8209236/p6pb8209236.jpg
I may make it roll-able in the future, but the trail is a black and all the drops have ride-arounds.
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I cribbed in the drop with a new piece of cedar to retain the trail and bring it back to its former state. You can see what it used to look like in older photos: ep1.pinkbike.org/p6pb8209236/p6pb8209236.jpg
I may make it roll-able in the future, but the trail is a black and all the drops have ride-arounds.
Twotterguy
SHORE CORPS (Dec 15, 2019 at 10:08)
Trail RT Connector
Got it, thanks to the folks that helped get it off the trail!
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0ut5ide
(Nov 24, 2019 at 17:00)
Trail Forever After
Nice conditions today. Good grip on the rocks. Just a few puddles.
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bboyshredder
(Sep 14, 2019 at 17:10)
Trail Applicator
Awesome trail hard to find it, but its sooooooooooo fun because its a dirt slide with two rock drops.
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jjanetka
(Aug 30, 2019 at 20:21)
Trail Forever After
Great trail. Nice ride from 2nd switchback parking lot from Corkscrew to Mushroom to Dales to Forever. Yes, probably deserves the black - a few spots are a little tricky if you are going slower (I'm sure the faster just float over this rough stuff). Not a flashy trail but still a good ride.
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bboyshredder
(Aug 28, 2019 at 17:50)
Trail Good Sir Martin
I love this trail . if you hate climbing stick to the old buck because its way shorter. but its awesome and smooth but penny lane isn't witch is before good sir Martin. not good for bigginer climbers .
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Mike1001
(Aug 14, 2019 at 21:33)
(Aug 14, 2019 at 21:33)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
This is basically a hike a bike trail for at least half of it.... the bikeable part is just a boring connector to other bikeable trails
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dirtbiker100
(Jul 19, 2019 at 22:31)
Trail Powerline Access Trail
For visiting riders - don't try going up this one from the valley bottom...
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jjanetka
(Jul 18, 2019 at 1:54)
Trail Power Line
Short but fun smooth rolly connector. Take this instead of bottom of Incline.
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xTwoSnakesx
(Jul 16, 2019 at 0:36)
Trail Applicator
Cool trail, but confusing for many reasons:
1. the map makes a short section of this trail part of the climbing route, which seems odd
2. there is an old fall line trail that follows the RR climber that has a tree at the top with a tiny sign that says "Applicator" in marker but seems to point in the opposite direction
3. there is no signage for the actual Applicator turnoff?
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1. the map makes a short section of this trail part of the climbing route, which seems odd
2. there is an old fall line trail that follows the RR climber that has a tree at the top with a tiny sign that says "Applicator" in marker but seems to point in the opposite direction
3. there is no signage for the actual Applicator turnoff?
ataraxie
(Jun 9, 2019 at 22:30)
Trail Forever After
Forever After is my favorite trail on Seymour! I like how it's mostly downhill with a few XC sections in between. It makes it seem a loong ride! I think it deserves the black rating. It's harder than other black ones like Corkskrew in my opinion.
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javabk
(Jun 4, 2019 at 20:52)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
This is mostly hike a bike trail
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ryancartiers
(Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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mrj27
(Apr 19, 2019 at 0:46)
Trail Empress Bypass
Yo this is bike park quality flow now it's awesome! Good job builders!
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MKBERGEY1
(Mar 30, 2019 at 17:27)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Ride well and Sheeeessssss nice!! ????????
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jasonwd
(Mar 20, 2019 at 6:43)
Trail Empress Bypass
Totally changed to the smoothest bile park style flow berms on the shore. A refreshing wizz down from all the gnar and chunk further up the mountain. Well done trail fairies.
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jalee
(Mar 13, 2019 at 23:21)
Trail Forever After
Such a good trail. Has the most diversity of the trails I routinely ride on the shore. Mixed technical XC and all mountain. It’s a blast through beautiful forest. I would say a must ride after Dale’s, in addition to Pangor my other favourite on Seymour
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crashelman
(Sep 14, 2018 at 11:29)
(Sep 14, 2018 at 11:29)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Nice technical climbing alternative
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JacksonThack
(Sep 9, 2018 at 13:53)
Trail Upper Severed
Fun, pedalling flowy trail
Don’t be caught of guard by sudden climbs
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Don’t be caught of guard by sudden climbs
JacksonThack
(Sep 9, 2018 at 12:24)
Trail Empress Bypass
This is very challenging for a blue trail. It’s steep in sections and full of rock berms and rock gardens. Lots of fun for an intermediate rider!
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rskibobirney
(Jul 15, 2018 at 18:57)
Trail High School League
Ridiculously good fun, well-maintained trail. Starting with a couple of banked turns, you’re thrown into fast rolling trail with a couple of small drops. Suitable for newbies (like me) and I’m sure would still be fun for experienced riders.
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KevinStafford
(Jul 8, 2018 at 14:37)
Trail Applicator
Though short, this little trail is every bit as fun as Severed D
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rovadon
(Feb 8, 2018 at 19:04)
Trail Shorn Scrotum
Tree across trail halfway down at xx) face
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Shokunin
(Sep 11, 2017 at 20:06)
Trail Forever After
I'm new to the shore, but this trail was so hard for a blue. Even compared to some other blues in the area.
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paulbc
(Sep 11, 2017 at 20:26)
Trail Forever After
You're not the only one who thinks that. Last summer, there was a piece of tape on the entrance sign, right under the word "Harder", that said "...than any other blue trail". Call it navy blue.
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Shokunin
(Sep 13, 2017 at 20:07)
Trail Forever After
Good to know I'm not the only one 
The trail looks a lot more mellow in that video from 2014 too.
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The trail looks a lot more mellow in that video from 2014 too.
WilliamCornock
(Mar 4, 2018 at 14:33)
Trail Forever After
Was just up there yesterday and it had a black diamond on the sign. They must have changed it quite recently.
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leelau
(May 4, 2016 at 21:16)
Trail John Deer
Originally built by Bryce Borlick in 2011 www.pinkbike.com/video/434491
Ridden respectfully and mainly in the dry for 4 glorious years. Shut down in 2014-5. Re-opened and given new life by Martin & Penny.
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Ridden respectfully and mainly in the dry for 4 glorious years. Shut down in 2014-5. Re-opened and given new life by Martin & Penny.
DMal
SHORE CORPS (Dec 24, 2015 at 9:16)
Trail Penny Lane
Possibly my favourite section of the Seymour climb. The corners are open enough that you can get some good uphill flow going. And it takes you right to the rowdy part of Severed, perfect for tacking a little bit more onto the end of a ride.
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meloroast
(Oct 15, 2015 at 13:44)
Trail Good Sir Martin
this trail rides like a dream. absolutely love it! great work!!
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CRich78
(Aug 10, 2015 at 16:03)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Phenomenal climbing trail. Thanks for all the beautiful work Martin and Penny. Rode GSM for the first time today and enjoyed every inch of it. It's so great to be able to loop back to Baden without having to head over to Old Buck or Hyannis. Awesome. I'll definitely be heading up to ride some Seymour loops more often. Thanks again!
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bikejunky
(Jul 23, 2015 at 10:10)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Stung. Twice. Ouch. Great trail nonetheless.
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DMal
SHORE CORPS (Jul 13, 2015 at 10:20)
Trail Good Sir Martin
Great climbing trail. It climbs through a beautiful part of the forest, and the grade is nice and moderate.
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moballa
(Jul 12, 2015 at 21:01)
(Jul 12, 2015 at 21:01)
Trail Good Sir Martin
My son and I rode Good Sir this morning which allowed us to do a couple of laps up there which doesn't happen often for us. The trail meanders beautifully through pristine forest and feels like it's been there forever - a testament to the fantastic engineering and careful planning that went into this right down to the precise fern transplanting! "Isn't this awesome!" was echoed by many of the other excited riders we encountered along the trail today. Congratulations Martin and Penny and to all the other volunteers! Good Sir Martin will be one of the most enjoyed trails on the north shore.
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frenchfriedfun
(Jul 10, 2015 at 15:34)
Trail Good Sir Martin
the Christmas corner is sick ! and the bunch after that too..
sick trail
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sick trail
trevmillion
(Aug 29, 2014 at 17:35)
Trail High School League
very fun XC trail. Minimal roots, some small drops and a lot of rolling terrain. Well maintained
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canadaka
Trailforks (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:56)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
This section gps'ed on Seymour is mostly all rideable. The section from "Old Buck" to the Powerlines was upgraded last winter for an easier climb and is used a lot.
The descent portion from the powerlines to the "BP to Powerline Connector" was upgraded for the BC Bike Race. The trail after this point is not rideable, it gets very steep with steps. Once it hits "Bridle Path" its rideable again.
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The descent portion from the powerlines to the "BP to Powerline Connector" was upgraded for the BC Bike Race. The trail after this point is not rideable, it gets very steep with steps. Once it hits "Bridle Path" its rideable again.
trevmillion
(Aug 28, 2014 at 12:17)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
how much of this trail can you ride bike on?
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