23.7 miles
Distance
4,337 ft
Climb
-4,336 ft
Descent
1,990 ft
High Point
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This is a permitted race course, not all trails can be ridden 365 days a year. Please respect Land Managers and Ride at Your Own Risk.
The BC Bike Race is happy to announce that North Vancouver, home of the infamous North Shore trails, will host the stage 5 for 2015. The Legendary North Shore is back, with it's regular ladder bridges, roots and rocks but now with an all new flavour "pump flow".
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Detailed Description
BCBR 2015 Day 5 is a 24 mile intermediate race route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a hard overall physical rating. This route includes 28 trails. This route climbs 4,337 ft with a max elevation of 1,990 ft then descends -4,336 ft.
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provin1327
(Jul 26, 2022 at 14:28)
Trail Baden Powell (Fromme Section)
Rode this west to east after exiting Expresso and holy crap this trail has some technical and challenging sections! Although there are some traversing sections on this trail that are blue in difficulty overall it's a black, a pretty difficult black at that. It's fun and challenging but if you are an intermediate rider this trail will eat you alive and you'll probably be walking a chunk of it.
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razzlebazzil
SHORE CORPS (Jul 27, 2022 at 14:37)
You got it, it's the blackest blue trail on the shore! All I can say is you should have seen it 6 years ago. A few thousand hours over the last six years have gone into fixing up this section of trail. We haven't eliminated the gnar but there are some relatively smooth lines (albeit about 4" wide) through the rougher sections. This trail definitely helps folks progress!
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cuartodorado
(Jul 10, 2022 at 18:14)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
I lost my googles today 10-07-22 around 11:00 am, I believe on this trail (or Old Buck to connect with Badew Powell) on my way up to take John Deer. Please send me a message if you found them, thanks.
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conrad-hoc
(Jul 6, 2022 at 10:06)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
Rode a section of this today for the first time. Climbed GSM and wanted to get to Forever After, so we took Baden Powell. BP to Severed D was pretty fun. More black than blue, in my opinion. From Severed towards Forever it got even steeper and more treacherous. You've been warned!
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maggiedurkin
(Jun 20, 2022 at 22:03)
A bit of a surprise, a fun surprise, but after a pretty mellow traverse from expresso the trail changes it’s vibe quite drastically! Be prepared to ride through like 10 rock gardens. Very well put together rock gardens, but somewhat twisty rock gardens nonetheless. Helps to know what to expect! That being said still a great way to get back to the parking lot.
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WillBHnRfx
(Jun 7, 2022 at 22:54)
Found a Toyota key fob riding tonight. Search Craig’s list lost + found for the posting. Sorry - I’m not leaving my contact info on this app.
“FOUND: Toyota key fob, Upper Richard Juryn Trail“
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“FOUND: Toyota key fob, Upper Richard Juryn Trail“
subieoutlaw
(Feb 13, 2022 at 16:06)
Trail High School League
Fun fun fun. Smooth and fast XC trail.
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liamdubs
(Feb 9, 2022 at 20:40)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
The direction is basically wrong. It is 100% unrideable from forever after to severed upwards, but is a spicy treat downwards.
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SpecSRAM
(Nov 8, 2021 at 10:42)
Ridden many times...decided to finally post a comment lol. I really only use BP to ride back out to the Upper Parking Lot and the final descent once you get past Big Stupid is no joke. You can create and carry some ridiculously fun speed down here. Be careful though, as hikers regularly use BP, both ways. You CAN get down the final descent in about 1:30, but your hands will not like it.
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Jake451mx
(Oct 19, 2021 at 12:47)
(Oct 19, 2021 at 12:47)
Trail Powerline Trail
Shame the jumps has disappeared in the photos but used as climbing route to start my fromme climbing, much easier on the legs than using mtn highway or the other roads that steep and straight
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Jake451mx
(Oct 19, 2021 at 12:35)
(Oct 19, 2021 at 12:35)
Trail For The Kids
Great little climbing trail to connect after crippler back up into the good stuff thanks, little bit of tech to make it interesting but not too tough to make all ability friendly
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conrad-hoc
(Oct 14, 2021 at 11:33)
Trail High School League
great trail. fun to learn on. I like that its a loop
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Jake451mx
(Oct 12, 2021 at 15:51)
(Oct 12, 2021 at 15:51)
Rode a big portion of this trail west to east it was really fun recommend for riders who like tech up and downs and picking lines great to have something a little rougher next to some of the more well groomed berm trails- variety is the key-
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Mcyeetus
(Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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gg444
(Sep 11, 2021 at 21:27)
Trail Expresso
Amazing entry level black, the best flow trail on the Shore by far (sorry Bobsled). I would consider it slightly easier than Floppy just becuase it's a bit more flowy and faster for intermediates, and definitely worth the climb. I always finish my day riding Expresso during golden hour.
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bramski
(Sep 5, 2021 at 16:56)
Classic north shore jank. Fairly popular with hikers. Viewpoint is nice.
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bramski
(Sep 5, 2021 at 15:24)
Trail Camp Brick Bypass
Excellent switch backy climbing trail. Smooth and wide. Very green.
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Kazuaki
(Aug 19, 2021 at 18:33)
(Aug 19, 2021 at 18:33)
Trail Forever After
I’d rate it a dark blue on the downhill parts. And full black on the uphill parts. I gotta get better at climbing!
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pitter
(Jun 23, 2021 at 18:34)
Trail Camp Brick Bypass
This thought this trail was now closed?
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mario9000
(Jun 14, 2021 at 13:12)
(Jun 14, 2021 at 13:12)
Found a piece if wood with a 3" nail sticking up out of it on a bridge going eastward just before pipeline exit. Seemed to be placed there purposely. It has been disposed of now. I will upload an image.
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razzlebazzil
SHORE CORPS (Jun 15, 2021 at 10:45)
Thank you for taking care of that. I'll swing through and take a good look.
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Wesmacaulay
FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 21:09)
FVMBA - ADMIN (Jun 5, 2021 at 21:09)
A decent but challenging traverse trail back from Espresso. Some of the steeps could be made a bit more ridable. The large rock gardens will be dangerous for many riders if it's wet. Only worth riding west to east.
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octet
(Feb 27, 2021 at 20:53)
(Feb 27, 2021 at 20:53)
Trail Old Buck
A bit stiff, but also the fastest ride to the top of corkscrew or CBC, IMO. Good Sir Martin is more twisty and detours out of the way, and straight up Buck cuts off a loop on Mtn. Highway. GSM is good for the second lap, since you are already over near Academy, etc.
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kyleluvsdh
(Feb 11, 2021 at 22:30)
Trail Forever After
We should really adopt the New Zealand trail grading system in Canada. It bridges the gap nicely between between 'hard blue's' and 'easy black's'. Windrock Bike Park, TN. Adopted the NZ grading system in the past year as well. It makes sense. Here's what it would look like:
NZ Trail Grading System:
Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
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NZ Trail Grading System:
Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
quithollerin
(Jan 21, 2021 at 10:16)
(Jan 21, 2021 at 10:16)
Yup. I can honestly say that I'm over Baden. It's now just another fee to pay if you want to ride Expresso. Shaves some life off of your bike everytime you ride it.
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ranchitup
(Nov 23, 2020 at 21:53)
There are several sections on this trail that will f*ck a beginner up, especially in the wet. With that being said there are a few pretty fun sections on this trail and overall not terrible for a traverse.
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darcraver
(Nov 14, 2020 at 19:39)
The trail totally rocks! Should have seen it 10-15 years ago 
Great progression trail after the warmup on Expresso. Unbelievable amount of work done on this trail the last few years to make it more blue like, but it keeps fighting back
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Great progression trail after the warmup on Expresso. Unbelievable amount of work done on this trail the last few years to make it more blue like, but it keeps fighting back liamdubs
(Aug 25, 2020 at 16:19)
Like everyone says, not a blue. This is some sort of a prank.
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Dukechillington
(Jun 29, 2020 at 22:48)
(Jun 29, 2020 at 22:48)
Trail Forever After
Awesome trail! Less busy then other areas and super fun on an e-bike with it’s XC flow. Rode on a wet day after almost dying on Dales (no, seriously!) thinking Forever After would be more of the same but was pleasantly surprised!
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heckler73
NSMBA (Jun 12, 2020 at 13:24)
Trail Gravel Connector
Has a public water refill fountain next to the gazebo
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SeventhSecret
(Apr 28, 2020 at 20:48)
Agree with the comments here -- this is by far the blackest blue trail anywhere on the North Shore. It tends to get pretty beaten up as well, and can get super-gnarly. There are several corners on the downhill section going East towards Mtn Highway (from Espresso / Pipeline, etc.), that are essentially steep rock gardens, and pretty slippery especially when they're wet. Not to mention the beginning of the downhill section... the mandatory steep ladder onto steep rock garden, with a slight left turn at the bottom, would be pretty intimidating, even for a black trail.
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JTJ10
(Apr 11, 2020 at 12:53)
Trail Expresso
Rode the trail a couple days ago for the first time. Although its rated blue on trail forks there are some harder sections and some decent drops, this may partly be because the trail has gotten a bit beaten up from winter and all the traffic it receives but with the current virus situation there may not be much trail maintenance for a while so keep that in mind if your expecting something really blue your first time down the trail. Still a really fun trail and great entry level black diamond, if you can handle floppy bunny(the more techy parts and bridges not the optional jumps) and you want to step it up I would recommend it, the climb is long in comparison but its a fun trail with the hardest features optional so you can work your way up to them, also the hardest non-optional parts are pretty easy to walk and there are only a couple.
All around awesome entry level black trail and im exited to ride it again in the next couple of days!
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All around awesome entry level black trail and im exited to ride it again in the next couple of days!
0ut5ide
(Nov 24, 2019 at 17:00)
Trail Forever After
Nice conditions today. Good grip on the rocks. Just a few puddles.
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jjanetka
(Aug 30, 2019 at 20:21)
Trail Forever After
Great trail. Nice ride from 2nd switchback parking lot from Corkscrew to Mushroom to Dales to Forever. Yes, probably deserves the black - a few spots are a little tricky if you are going slower (I'm sure the faster just float over this rough stuff). Not a flashy trail but still a good ride.
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B-Rough
(Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
(Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
Similar to many of the comments above I took this trail as a connector from Expresso. This trail did surprise me as due to the rock paths they have created (I think for hikers) it is actually pretty challenging, definitely harder than Expresso in my view.
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Mike1001
(Aug 14, 2019 at 21:33)
(Aug 14, 2019 at 21:33)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
This is basically a hike a bike trail for at least half of it.... the bikeable part is just a boring connector to other bikeable trails
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ataraxie
(Jun 9, 2019 at 22:30)
Trail Forever After
Forever After is my favorite trail on Seymour! I like how it's mostly downhill with a few XC sections in between. It makes it seem a loong ride! I think it deserves the black rating. It's harder than other black ones like Corkskrew in my opinion.
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javabk
(Jun 4, 2019 at 20:52)
(Jun 4, 2019 at 20:52)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
This is mostly hike a bike trail
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ryancartiers
(Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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JemSamonte
(May 7, 2019 at 21:16)
Rode this trail after trying Expresso the 2nd time. Was very technical for me but was really fun. Walked most of the uphill part and some sketchy descent. You just have to be mindful since a lot of hikers are on this trail as well. Will definitely try again this weekend after pipeline or expresso.
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andreyapopov
(Mar 28, 2019 at 13:44)
This is NOT a blue trail; it should be marked as black diamond. I ride blue trails almost exclusively with couple black ones thrown in, and this one is by far the hardest I've done. There are some "black" trail in Squamish and Seymour that are easier than this one.
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andreyapopov
(Mar 28, 2019 at 13:48)
In fact, Expresso - black rated trail - is much easier than this one.
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martywis
(Mar 25, 2019 at 8:51)
Trail Expresso
Hi Guys, I was riding Saturday around 4:00 and saw couple of guys on eBikes riding cross country through the woods (maybe crossing between Crippler and ESpresso)...
Unfortunately I did not manage to talk to them - but if anybody knows who they were or sees them again, please highlite that riding off trails with ebikes especially will cause damage to our sport and the fantastic location on the northshore.
btw. I am a eMTB rider as well... and there is more then enough fun on the perfect existing trails!
Please respect and share this attitude!!!!
Marty
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Unfortunately I did not manage to talk to them - but if anybody knows who they were or sees them again, please highlite that riding off trails with ebikes especially will cause damage to our sport and the fantastic location on the northshore.
btw. I am a eMTB rider as well... and there is more then enough fun on the perfect existing trails!
Please respect and share this attitude!!!!
Marty
jalee
(Mar 13, 2019 at 23:21)
Trail Forever After
Such a good trail. Has the most diversity of the trails I routinely ride on the shore. Mixed technical XC and all mountain. It’s a blast through beautiful forest. I would say a must ride after Dale’s, in addition to Pangor my other favourite on Seymour
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Edu888
(Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
(Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
Took the trail to go back to the parking lot after Espresso and I can safely say that this trail is significantly harder. Super steep rocky climbs lead to super steep rocky descents. The descents are really fun though.
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JacksonThack
(Sep 9, 2018 at 13:53)
Trail Upper Severed
Fun, pedalling flowy trail
Don’t be caught of guard by sudden climbs
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Don’t be caught of guard by sudden climbs
JacksonThack
(Jul 30, 2018 at 8:56)
This trail is exceptionally technical with massive uphill rock gardens, steep stairs, and not much fun for me as an intermediate rider
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rskibobirney
(Jul 15, 2018 at 18:57)
Trail High School League
Ridiculously good fun, well-maintained trail. Starting with a couple of banked turns, you’re thrown into fast rolling trail with a couple of small drops. Suitable for newbies (like me) and I’m sure would still be fun for experienced riders.
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KevinStafford
(Apr 4, 2018 at 6:27)
Yeah, that was the blackest blue I've ever ridden. However, I had a great time rolling those steps and re enforced stone descents back to parking. Great trail in its own right.
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konarider112
(Mar 16, 2018 at 20:55)
This is the hardest blue trail I’ve ever ridden. Especially east to west; I had to push my bike.
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Shokunin
(Sep 11, 2017 at 20:06)
Trail Forever After
I'm new to the shore, but this trail was so hard for a blue. Even compared to some other blues in the area.
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paulbc
(Sep 11, 2017 at 20:26)
Trail Forever After
You're not the only one who thinks that. Last summer, there was a piece of tape on the entrance sign, right under the word "Harder", that said "...than any other blue trail". Call it navy blue.
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Shokunin
(Sep 13, 2017 at 20:07)
Trail Forever After
Good to know I'm not the only one The trail looks a lot more mellow in that video from 2014 too.
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The trail looks a lot more mellow in that video from 2014 too.
WilliamCornock
(Mar 4, 2018 at 14:33)
Trail Forever After
Was just up there yesterday and it had a black diamond on the sign. They must have changed it quite recently.
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Ledski
(Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
(Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
Much harder than expected and quite challenging to ride east to west. Quite technical.
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Lotus99
(Jul 24, 2017 at 8:23)
Trail Powerline Trail
Section between upper and lower princess park is completely overgrown
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edrowan
(Jul 31, 2016 at 18:38)
Not sure if the rider responsible will read this, but I figured it was worth a shot. I was out on the Richard Jury today at about 11:30 this morning when a rider buzzed my wife, clipper her elbow, and knocked her off then did the same to me. Just to say she is now in emergency with a broken wrist - so thanks for knocking her off and not stopping.
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Downhilljill61
(Apr 13, 2015 at 20:58)
High School mtb races on the Richard Juryn trail April 15, 22 and May 13, 2015, from 2:30-5:30pm
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adove
(Oct 27, 2014 at 10:39)
Trail King of the Shore
A good amount of work was done on October 26th by the Lynn Valley Bikes/NSMBA TAP volunteers at the bottom intersection with Lower Griffen. Very nice for climbing now!
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trevmillion
(Aug 29, 2014 at 17:35)
Trail High School League
very fun XC trail. Minimal roots, some small drops and a lot of rolling terrain. Well maintained
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canadaka
Trailforks (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:56)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
This section gps'ed on Seymour is mostly all rideable. The section from "Old Buck" to the Powerlines was upgraded last winter for an easier climb and is used a lot.
The descent portion from the powerlines to the "BP to Powerline Connector" was upgraded for the BC Bike Race. The trail after this point is not rideable, it gets very steep with steps. Once it hits "Bridle Path" its rideable again.
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The descent portion from the powerlines to the "BP to Powerline Connector" was upgraded for the BC Bike Race. The trail after this point is not rideable, it gets very steep with steps. Once it hits "Bridle Path" its rideable again.
trevmillion
(Aug 28, 2014 at 12:17)
Trail Baden Powell (Bikeable)
how much of this trail can you ride bike on?
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Altitude start485 ft
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