13.9 miles
Distance
2,896 ft
Climb
-2,863 ft
Descent
2,821 ft
High Point

Avoid climbing the single track when Tiger is busy, expect of oncoming DH traffic when climbing Joy Ride, Preston and East Tiger Summit.

Climb up the singletrack, come down OTG and Predator. This is a nice way to get the most trail out of the ride while avoiding the road. It's of course much faster to climb on the roads but nowhere near as fun.

Detailed Description
Blue Up, Black Down! is a 14 mile moderately popular expert route located near Issaquah Washington. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a moderate overall physical rating. This route includes 12 trails. This route climbs 2,896 ft with a max elevation of 2,821 ft then descends -2,863 ft.
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94 Reviews & Comments

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Slugjockey (Jan 31, 2023 at 21:17)
Trail Off The Grid
If you are an advanced to expert rider, and can handle any level of trail, I don’t GAF if you think this is XC, or blue, or even green. Trail ratings are only tangentially there for you. For example, Olallie is green, but it’s also a blue if you’re going faster than 20mph which is easily achievable. The PRIMARY reason trail ratings exist is so that people who do not have the skills to ride a particular trail, don’t. The last thing you want is low intermediate rider deciding to ride a trail based on rating, and having a terrible experience, or worse, a bad digger. We get it. You’re a badass. Nobody cares. But an intermediate rider is not going to have fun on this trail, or get hurt. It’s balack for them.
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rlynd3 (Nov 27, 2022 at 16:58)
Only trace amount of snow with good traction and fun fast flow.
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JamesT1QHdm (Nov 11, 2022 at 19:06)
About 6” of snow at the top off trail. The trail was not too bad, but definitely a slow cautious ride.
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Skfernandez10 (Sep 19, 2022 at 0:17)
Trail Joy Ride
1st time at Tiger yesterday and I found this to be perfect for my skill level. I have never hit any tech nearly this gnarly, I'm surprised to see people complaining about flat turns. Watch some youtube and work on your flat cornering skills my fellow shredders. This is up there with being my favorite tech trail behind The Legend. I honestly thought this is a solid blue coming from someone who hasn't hit nearly any tech trails (flows really well too). Definitely a must ride for confident 1st timers at Tiger!
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jakemannix (Sep 2, 2022 at 22:03)
Trail Predator
First, about this trail: I'm an intermediate rider (OTG, CE, and Super-T are totally fine for me, NOTG and EBAD are "hard" but doable), and this one is super hard for me, but other than the waterfall and the roll down to the service road, it's all "rowdy, but awesome" - everything rollable (with care).

If you can do EBAD and NOTG, you can do this, if you're careful - just scope things out before you dive in, and skip around any section that seems just too nuts. Hopefully at some point soon, I'll have the skills / dexterity to traverse the waterfall without crashing, and I'll have nuts to try the roll/drop down to the road.

About the trail *description* above: not sure why we need to compare this to Bellingham or Squamish: it's clearly harder than any single black diamond on Tiger or Raging River (although perhaps upper PT has a section two which is comparable), so even if it's "a black diamond with 2 double black features, at 1.6 miles of that, calling it a double black makes total sense. Also: why say whether "most people wear a half lid"? Some people (like me) *only* wear a full face, whenever riding downhill trails. No need to make people feel like they're "badder-ass" if they ride this on a hard-tail with a half-lid.

(I do stand by my earlier review/comment that splitting out Lower Predator into it's own trail that's single black would make sense. Only the roll-in is hard (but still easier than either the waterfall or the roll-down onto the road), but nothing else on that last lower section warrants more caution than e.g. EBAD or NOTG)
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jakemannix (Sep 2, 2022 at 22:03)
Trail Predator
First, about this trail: I'm an intermediate rider (OTG, CE, and Super-T are totally fine for me, NOTG and EBAD are "hard" but doable), and this one is super hard for me, but other than the waterfall and the roll down to the service road, it's all "rowdy, but awesome" - everything rollable (with care).

If you can do EBAD and NOTG, you can do this, if you're careful - just scope things out before you dive in, and skip around any section that seems just too nuts. Hopefully at some point soon, I'll have the skills / dexterity to traverse the waterfall without crashing, and I'll have nuts to try the roll/drop down to the road.

About the trail *description* above: not sure why we need to compare this to Bellingham or Squamish: it's clearly harder than any single black diamond on Tiger or Raging River (although perhaps upper PT has a section two which is comparable), so even if it's "a black diamond with 2 double black features, at 1.6 miles of that, calling it a double black makes total sense. Also: why say whether "most people wear a half lid"? Some people (like me) *only* wear a full face, whenever riding downhill trails. No need to make people feel like they're "badder-ass" if they ride this on a hard-tail with a half-lid.

(I do stand by my earlier review/comment that splitting out Lower Predator into it's own trail that's single black would make sense. Only the roll-in is hard (but still easier than either the waterfall or the roll-down onto the road), but nothing else on that last lower section warrants more caution than e.g. EBAD or NOTG)
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cheekio (Sep 1, 2022 at 14:56)
Trail Off The Grid
For me, I also found this trail to be more blue-ish, similar to Chipmunk Rebellion in Whistler. However, I did ride it in excellent and very dry conditions. It has enough tech features to earn its black rating, if you hit them fast and high and in the wet. Regardless, it’s super fun!
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mrExplodey (Aug 23, 2022 at 10:08)
Trail Predator
Best trail at tiger for sure -- chunky, flowy, and you can just haul down everything on this trail. Get it!

Only approach from the road if you like suffering and hate fun. Trail climbs are always the better choice
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mrExplodey (Aug 23, 2022 at 10:08)
Trail Predator
Best trail at tiger for sure -- chunky, flowy, and you can just haul down everything on this trail. Get it!

Only approach from the road if you like suffering and hate fun. Trail climbs are always the better choice
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bryanjackler (Aug 23, 2022 at 9:43)
Trail Silent Swamp
Very very brushy right now, adds a lot of time to the day
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JackBT6G2j (Aug 19, 2022 at 20:55)
The root ball from the description seems like it is supposed to have a landing (looking at older pics,) but now that's eroded away.
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Nick1MTB (Aug 18, 2022 at 11:16)
Trail Predator
Whoa, what an awesome ride! It was a consistent challenge and all features pushed me but was still JUST inside my comfort zone. Suggest having your slow speed drop skills locked down.
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Nick1MTB (Aug 18, 2022 at 11:16)
Trail Predator
Whoa, what an awesome ride! It was a consistent challenge and all features pushed me but was still JUST inside my comfort zone. Suggest having your slow speed drop skills locked down.
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oscanuckar (Jun 26, 2022 at 15:17)
Trail Predator
Favorite trail at tiger. Definitely some features where it’s best to turn of your brain and commit.
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oscanuckar (Jun 26, 2022 at 15:17)
Trail Predator
Favorite trail at tiger. Definitely some features where it’s best to turn of your brain and commit.
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Jaejin0417 (Jun 20, 2022 at 22:44)
Downed tree that you need to climb over less than a quarter mile from top of the summit.

A bit wet and muddy in a few places but a blast nonetheless.
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Chardiver1 (May 21, 2022 at 22:41)
Trail Joy Ride
This trail was pretty muddy today. I’m mostly a progressing beginner so I stick to blue runs and found the technical features on this run a bit beyond my ability. I definitely had to walk on the super steep sharp corners and some rocky spots but there was definitely plenty of trail in between for me to have lots of fun. I’ll come back again for some more when it dries out
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avi-rides-bikes (May 21, 2022 at 18:29)
Trail Predator
Super fun trail. A good mix of tech and flow. I would consider it a black trail with two double black features. Best way up to it is by climbing or walking up the road.
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avi-rides-bikes (May 21, 2022 at 18:29)
Trail Predator
Super fun trail. A good mix of tech and flow. I would consider it a black trail with two double black features. Best way up to it is by climbing or walking up the road.
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JonathaneeeXAo (Mar 9, 2022 at 15:07)
Can anyone remind me what the story is with the dozen or so trees that are painted with the white stripe?
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carlsonwa (Nov 21, 2021 at 16:42)
Connect this with side hustle for a dream flowy ride almost back to the lot. And the Iverson cut over is way less a PIA than coming back from ET.
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Ch1ck3nn (Oct 23, 2021 at 18:58)
Trail Off The Grid
Trail is in good shape. Lots of fun. Just be ready to get muddy
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remnant44 (Oct 17, 2021 at 10:54)
My new favorite trail.perfect blend of speed and some features for an intermediate rider
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chunky-tech-doctor (Aug 31, 2021 at 13:56)
Trail Joy Ride
Joy ride is one of the best trails out there pin it and tell me it's not one of the best if you can't ride the trail its all good flat turns are part of biking ? I'm confused on how you dont think this is top of the lists there is not alot of blues better sst? Atomic dog skyline? There all just as good joyride is fantastic trail and a must hit tech for days flow as well with drops and chuck. And please don't tell me what to do ok if you can't read my crap texts then leave it alone calling someone out and talking crap on a app is a bit ridiculous.
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Combinednathan (Aug 19, 2021 at 18:12)
Trail Silent Swamp
Hitting the trail the way Trailforks recommends is a lot of fun. Don’t listen to the comments. Don’t do it in the wet though. It’ll be puddle after puddle and it’s not flowy at all. Only worth doing if you are riding inside passage and want to climb up to fully rigid
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carlsonwa (Jul 17, 2021 at 9:39)
Love love loved this fast trail with opportunities to get a bit of air time even as an advanced beginner.
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carlsonwa (Jul 17, 2021 at 9:36)
Trail Silent Swamp
Pretty overgrown in parts. Wear long sleeves if you don’t want to bleed from thorns.
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carlsonwa (Jul 17, 2021 at 9:34)
Lots of tree stumps and rocks to pop off and practice small drops. Not a lot of fun if you like smooth and flowy. It felt like the waste of my hard earned altitude. Will skip next time.
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carlsonwa (Jul 17, 2021 at 9:34)
Lots of tree stumps and rocks to pop off and practice small drops. Not a lot of fun if you like smooth and flowy. It felt like the waste of my hard earned altitude. Will skip next time.
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tdeems (Jul 10, 2021 at 11:22)
Trail Joy Ride
Awkward flat turns a no rhythm at all for the first half. Gets more fun further on. Fully disagree with chunky-tech-doctor about being a top blue. And on that note, please put a little more effort into sentence formation and punctuation if you are going to make a point of reviewing a lot of trails in the area. It’s hard to take you seriously.
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ebarnes1 (Jul 4, 2021 at 17:37)
Trail Off The Grid
Honestly kind of confused about this trail. I get that they are trying to keep all the natural features such as roots, rocks, and drops but for how popular this trail is it needs way more work. Smooth out some of the flow sections, clean up the rock lines, and this trail would definitely be a 5/5
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vitabrevis (Jul 4, 2021 at 12:11)
Trail Predator
Love this trail, and make it a point to come ride it every time I come through the region. Proper tech that works well and comes to life as you get more comfortable with the speed available.
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vitabrevis (Jul 4, 2021 at 12:11)
Trail Predator
Love this trail, and make it a point to come ride it every time I come through the region. Proper tech that works well and comes to life as you get more comfortable with the speed available.
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pinkece (Jun 15, 2021 at 15:12)
Anyone know what the trail is that swoops off to the left part of the way into Preston? It's a downhill trail with tight berms. Went all the way down to a fire road.
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pinkece (Jun 15, 2021 at 15:12)
Anyone know what the trail is that swoops off to the left part of the way into Preston? It's a downhill trail with tight berms. Went all the way down to a fire road.
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jmbrunson (Jun 15, 2021 at 15:48)
It's called Extraterrestrial, built by Evergreen. not officially open yet.
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jmbrunson (Jun 15, 2021 at 15:48)
It's called Extraterrestrial, built by Evergreen. not officially open yet.
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pinkece (Jun 15, 2021 at 22:07)
Thanks! I followed a guy down that trail (he said it was a flowy blue trail) but it was way beyond my comfort level. Picks up speed really fast and never lets up. I'll stick to Preston in the future lol.
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pinkece (Jun 15, 2021 at 22:07)
Thanks! I followed a guy down that trail (he said it was a flowy blue trail) but it was way beyond my comfort level. Picks up speed really fast and never lets up. I'll stick to Preston in the future lol.
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nofunstravaguy (Jun 1, 2021 at 12:23)
Trail Predator
This trail is awesome! A definite double black, but not the hardest one out there by any means. Good flow with some fun steep rocky/roots drops. Ride the hardest blacks in the area to be sure this is feasible for you.
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nofunstravaguy (Jun 1, 2021 at 12:23)
Trail Predator
This trail is awesome! A definite double black, but not the hardest one out there by any means. Good flow with some fun steep rocky/roots drops. Ride the hardest blacks in the area to be sure this is feasible for you.
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pinkece (May 30, 2021 at 14:00)
Hop onto this after East Tiger Summit Trail. Fast. 5 stars
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pinkece (May 30, 2021 at 14:00)
Hop onto this after East Tiger Summit Trail. Fast. 5 stars
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pinkece (May 30, 2021 at 13:57)
Awesome fast trail for beginner and intermediate riders. 5 stars
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jakemannix (May 1, 2021 at 12:01)
Trail Silent Swamp
Looks like it’s fun from the Joyride end to Preston… but riding “up” interesting tech kinda … sucks. This is only a 2 way trail because there’s no other choice.
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jakemannix (Apr 23, 2021 at 22:12)
Trail Predator
Review of Lower Predator only (for now) - awesome trail, tamer than EBAD, IMO. The entrance roll down from the road looks scary, but is straight, wide, and has good sight lines, and while I often get tripped up _somewhere_ on EBAD, by my third loop of lower Predator I was riding the whole thing cleanly (and I never messed up the entrance). Seems like maybe calling the lower part a different trail and dropping it to single black might be “area appropriate” (I have no problem with upper keeping its double status due to that lovely waterfall feature alone tho ;p ). The hardest features of EBAD, NOTG, and Legend are all comparable with the hardest part of lower Predator.
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jakemannix (Apr 23, 2021 at 22:12)
Trail Predator
Review of Lower Predator only (for now) - awesome trail, tamer than EBAD, IMO. The entrance roll down from the road looks scary, but is straight, wide, and has good sight lines, and while I often get tripped up _somewhere_ on EBAD, by my third loop of lower Predator I was riding the whole thing cleanly (and I never messed up the entrance). Seems like maybe calling the lower part a different trail and dropping it to single black might be “area appropriate” (I have no problem with upper keeping its double status due to that lovely waterfall feature alone tho ;p ). The hardest features of EBAD, NOTG, and Legend are all comparable with the hardest part of lower Predator.
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taber355 (Apr 23, 2021 at 12:18)
Very fun, fast, and flowy, and is always a fun start to descending on Tiger. The trail runs great when dry.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 22:00)
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 22:00)
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 21:57)
Trail Off The Grid
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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chunky-tech-doctor (Mar 2, 2021 at 9:40)
Trail Joy Ride
With out a dought top 5 best blues in the pwn with out a dought its got it all in the tech and flow department no jumps or drops but it's got the other stuff in the bag
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photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:44)
Trail Off The Grid
Pretty fun trail when it's dry, but holds moisture more than others so if it's wet I'd not bother. When it's dry and fast there's plenty of room for creativity if you maintain speed.
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photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:27)
Trail Predator
Legit rating on a great trail that rewards repetition. Disclaimer: If you're not comfortable riding every other tech trail in the area at speed you may want to hold off. Rode it blind when it was wet and it was a handful but still a lot of fun. Looking forward to becoming better acquainted as it's definitely a trail that rewards exacting line choices and careful application of front brakes. Many non-intiuitive inside or middle lines are the better options so if you get the chance to ride with someone that know's the trail that's pretty ideal.

Respect to getting a trail like this sanctioned
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photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:27)
Trail Predator
Legit rating on a great trail that rewards repetition. Disclaimer: If you're not comfortable riding every other tech trail in the area at speed you may want to hold off. Rode it blind when it was wet and it was a handful but still a lot of fun. Looking forward to becoming better acquainted as it's definitely a trail that rewards exacting line choices and careful application of front brakes. Many non-intiuitive inside or middle lines are the better options so if you get the chance to ride with someone that know's the trail that's pretty ideal.

Respect to getting a trail like this sanctioned
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shaggedelic (Jan 22, 2021 at 18:11)
Trail Off The Grid
I dunno about this, so over hyped felt like a waste of time. I did NOTG first and won’t be doing OTG ever again.
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seattlesbest (Dec 6, 2020 at 13:00)
Trail Silent Swamp
Uphill both ways this trail is miserable.
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yman98 (Nov 29, 2020 at 12:02)
Trail Off The Grid
Recent rework has improved the flow of the trail. Ironing out a few of the awkward sections.
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skylinecul8r (Oct 8, 2020 at 12:55)
Trail Predator
The drops with no landing are rough on a 26” bike. Trail was Definitely built with a super slack enduro rig in mind.
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skylinecul8r (Oct 8, 2020 at 12:55)
Trail Predator
The drops with no landing are rough on a 26” bike. Trail was Definitely built with a super slack enduro rig in mind.
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adamweld (Sep 22, 2020 at 22:52)
Trail Off The Grid
Absolutely one of the best trails in Washington.
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TheRent8590 (Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56)
Trail Off The Grid
This trail is loaded with obstacles, drops, off camber roots and rock gardens. There are several drops with tricky rock placement that could easily throw you off; intermediate riders may struggle conquering them all at first.
No one cares if you think it’s a blue or black; this trail is wicked fun, just go and ride it!
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Nwilkes (Jun 16, 2020 at 22:43)
Trail Off The Grid
This is borderline XC. Black??
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jdh (Feb 3, 2021 at 14:36)
Trail Off The Grid
IMO it depends how fast you hit it. I can scare myself on this trail, or I can pick my way down. If I do the former, it's a black, esp. if I take all the side hits and try to air things. Anyone could poke their way down though, so that does make it more of a "dark" blue trail.
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CaptainBLT (Aug 9, 2021 at 10:55)
Trail Off The Grid
"Anyone could poke their way down" means it really shouldn't be black.

Especially after the trail maintenance this year, there are no mandatory gaps or drops, there is no section where you can't come to a complete stop without issue, and the trail still works just fine if you aren't able to carry speed.

Remy Metailler can find 40 foot gaps with sniper landings on blue trails in Whistler Bike Park, that doesn't make them pro lines.
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chunky-tech-doctor (Mar 24, 2020 at 14:29)
Trail Predator
Did this trail for the first time last week and it is a proper double black now after years of abuse. One section in the middle alone gives this trail the red rating its unridable if you hit this trail you see what I am talking about every video I've seen people crashed there. But it was legit one of the glfunest trails I've ever done.
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chunky-tech-doctor (Mar 24, 2020 at 14:29)
Trail Predator
Did this trail for the first time last week and it is a proper double black now after years of abuse. One section in the middle alone gives this trail the red rating its unridable if you hit this trail you see what I am talking about every video I've seen people crashed there. But it was legit one of the glfunest trails I've ever done.
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2d-cutout (Nov 4, 2019 at 18:26)
Trail Predator
A trail that rewards repetition, you can ride this once (like I did), but it left me wanting to ride it at least a couple of times more. Lots of rock gardens and jumps, sometimes multiple lines. It was fun, but would be absolutely sick if I had time to learn it and ride the right lines and hit the features properly.
Can be ridden on a short travel bike, slowly, enduro bike quick, or if you really want to get SENDY, a DH bike would rule this.
As above, trail rating single black in BC - I live and ride in Whistler area.
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2d-cutout (Nov 4, 2019 at 18:26)
Trail Predator
A trail that rewards repetition, you can ride this once (like I did), but it left me wanting to ride it at least a couple of times more. Lots of rock gardens and jumps, sometimes multiple lines. It was fun, but would be absolutely sick if I had time to learn it and ride the right lines and hit the features properly.
Can be ridden on a short travel bike, slowly, enduro bike quick, or if you really want to get SENDY, a DH bike would rule this.
As above, trail rating single black in BC - I live and ride in Whistler area.
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S4-916 (Oct 31, 2019 at 15:10)
Trail Predator
I’d call this a heavy single black, not really double black. Fun flowy trail, some steep loose bits, a few smallish drops. Maybe comparable in difficulty to Howler in Whistler.
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S4-916 (Oct 31, 2019 at 15:10)
Trail Predator
I’d call this a heavy single black, not really double black. Fun flowy trail, some steep loose bits, a few smallish drops. Maybe comparable in difficulty to Howler in Whistler.
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Evanalmighty19 (Oct 28, 2019 at 8:44)
Trail Silent Swamp
Definitely much more fun going north... Fun trail either way though.
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qkim0x01 (Sep 1, 2019 at 23:55)
Trail Joy Ride
This trail is quite technical as a intermediate trail. It as many rocks. You can do if you go slowly. If you are comfortable with this trail, you are ready to challenge black diamonds as well
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quayg0n (Jul 14, 2019 at 13:57)
Trail Predator
Super sick dh trail amazing flow chunk steep gnar awesomeness
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quayg0n (Jul 14, 2019 at 13:57)
Trail Predator
Super sick dh trail amazing flow chunk steep gnar awesomeness
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jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:50)
Trail Off The Grid
The top is fun and flowy, at the split I would recommend NOTG as a much more flowy and fun descent.
The bottom part of Off The Grid has little flow and is to filled with switchbacks to flat sections.
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jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:48)
Trail Predator
Super fun trail, totally worth the climb, but I recommend climbing up the green trail and not the access road.
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jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:48)
Trail Predator
Super fun trail, totally worth the climb, but I recommend climbing up the green trail and not the access road.
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dirtworship (May 17, 2019 at 22:51)
Trail Off The Grid
Super fun descent, lots of flow but also lots of smashing over roots and rocks. Top notch trail, keeps you guessing with every turn.
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marebearrr (Mar 29, 2019 at 16:37)
Trail Joy Ride
I thought this was going to be an easy trail after Off The Grid. It was not so. Still has lots of obstacles, roots, rocks, tight switchbacks. Really fun overall, but just a bit harder than I was expecting for a blue.
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marebearrr (Mar 29, 2019 at 16:34)
Trail Off The Grid
I would definitely say this is a black diamond. At least to me. Lots of obstacles. Lota of right switchbacks, rocks, roots, and drop offs. Lots of work. Fun but very challenging. Not a relaxing swooping downhill. If I were naming this trial: “relentles
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hi-dr-nick Reporter (Sep 11, 2018 at 14:21)
Trail Off The Grid
Definitely not as hard as it sounds. More of a blue/black than a true black. With that said, super fun trail that keeps things interesting throughout its entirety.
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Spmahoney78 (Apr 29, 2018 at 20:47)
Trail Silent Swamp
I agree with the fellow comments
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Cheekrs (Nov 26, 2017 at 20:29)
Trail Silent Swamp
If you lik pedaling... this trail is for you. If not - then go down joyride, Don’t make the mistake I did!
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DBoop7 (Oct 13, 2017 at 20:50)
Trail Off The Grid
Was really rainy today but was still a blast!! Lots of slippery rocks and roots though.
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jayacheess (Oct 17, 2015 at 10:20)
Trail Off The Grid
This really is an amazing trail. I'd love to get down there again and ride the new Predator trail.

My only concern with the Tiger mountain riding area is the difficulty ratings seem to be a bit inflated. This trail feels squarely like an Intermediate, and nothing that I saw from POV videos makes Predator look like a double black. But maybe that's a good thing if it keeps unprepared people off the trails? shrug
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boxxerace TRAILFORKS (Jul 24, 2015 at 23:11)
Trail Off The Grid
What a fantastic trail! Wish it went all the way to the bottom.
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nsteele (Dec 23, 2014 at 22:30)
A pleasant XC ride that is a main link to the rest of the East Tiger trail system. If doing a shorter loop, then NTT will be your entrance and your exit. If doing a longer day by riding up the fire road to the East Summit, then NTT is your exit trail back to the parking lot.

Overall, NTT is rated Green, but it still has a few sections that will challenge novice riders. I've yet to see anyone successfully ride the big root ball in the uphill (East) direction. And same root ball in the downhill (West) direction back to parking lot is definitely a Blue trail feature. Roll it or drop it, and don't look down to your left! Also, the rock garden near the West end of the trail is more challenging riding uphill (heading West).
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pinkece (May 30, 2021 at 13:44)
I haven't seen anyone clear that root ball on the trail. If anyone has a video of them doing it I'd love to see. IMO it is a expert feature, definitely not blue.

Overall experience, didn't like NW Timber very much. Almost no descent/downhill sections. A lot of climbing, including very steep sections that pop of nowhere (eg. right after a rocky/rooty patch).
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  • Route Type
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  • Bike type
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  • Direction
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  • Physical rating
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  • Ridelogs
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More Stats for Blue Up, Black Down! mountain bike route
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    1,389 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,437 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,470 ft
  • Grade max
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  • Grade min
    42.4%
  • Distance climb
    7 miles
  • Distance down
    6 miles
  • Distance flat
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