1.3 miles
-689 ft
2,671 ft
High Point

Stage 5 is Drop In to OTG and a beginner only stage.

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CDC Stage 5 - Drop In/ OTG (Beginner Only) is a 1 mile moderately popular expert route located near Issaquah Washington. This mountain bike only route. This route includes 2 trails. This route with a max elevation of 2,671 ft then descends -689 ft.
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23 Reviews & Comments

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Slugjockey (21 hours ago)
Trail Off The Grid
If you are an advanced to expert rider, and can handle any level of trail, I don’t GAF if you think this is XC, or blue, or even green. Trail ratings are only tangentially there for you. For example, Olallie is green, but it’s also a blue if you’re going faster than 20mph which is easily achievable. The PRIMARY reason trail ratings exist is so that people who do not have the skills to ride a particular trail, don’t. The last thing you want is low intermediate rider deciding to ride a trail based on rating, and having a terrible experience, or worse, a bad digger. We get it. You’re a badass. Nobody cares. But an intermediate rider is not going to have fun on this trail, or get hurt. It’s balack for them.
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cheekio (Sep 1, 2022 at 14:56)
Trail Off The Grid
For me, I also found this trail to be more blue-ish, similar to Chipmunk Rebellion in Whistler. However, I did ride it in excellent and very dry conditions. It has enough tech features to earn its black rating, if you hit them fast and high and in the wet. Regardless, it’s super fun!
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Ch1ck3nn (Oct 23, 2021 at 18:58)
Trail Off The Grid
Trail is in good shape. Lots of fun. Just be ready to get muddy
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ebarnes1 (Jul 4, 2021 at 17:37)
Trail Off The Grid
Honestly kind of confused about this trail. I get that they are trying to keep all the natural features such as roots, rocks, and drops but for how popular this trail is it needs way more work. Smooth out some of the flow sections, clean up the rock lines, and this trail would definitely be a 5/5
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 22:01)
Trail Drop In
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 21:57)
Trail Off The Grid
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:44)
Trail Off The Grid
Pretty fun trail when it's dry, but holds moisture more than others so if it's wet I'd not bother. When it's dry and fast there's plenty of room for creativity if you maintain speed.
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shaggedelic (Jan 22, 2021 at 18:11)
Trail Off The Grid
I dunno about this, so over hyped felt like a waste of time. I did NOTG first and won’t be doing OTG ever again.
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yman98 (Nov 29, 2020 at 12:02)
Trail Off The Grid
Recent rework has improved the flow of the trail. Ironing out a few of the awkward sections.
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adamweld (Sep 22, 2020 at 22:52)
Trail Off The Grid
Absolutely one of the best trails in Washington.
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TheRent8590 (Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56)
Trail Off The Grid
This trail is loaded with obstacles, drops, off camber roots and rock gardens. There are several drops with tricky rock placement that could easily throw you off; intermediate riders may struggle conquering them all at first.
No one cares if you think it’s a blue or black; this trail is wicked fun, just go and ride it!
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Nwilkes (Jun 16, 2020 at 22:43)
Trail Off The Grid
This is borderline XC. Black??
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jdh (Feb 3, 2021 at 14:36)
Trail Off The Grid
IMO it depends how fast you hit it. I can scare myself on this trail, or I can pick my way down. If I do the former, it's a black, esp. if I take all the side hits and try to air things. Anyone could poke their way down though, so that does make it more of a "dark" blue trail.
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CaptainBLT (Aug 9, 2021 at 10:55)
Trail Off The Grid
"Anyone could poke their way down" means it really shouldn't be black.

Especially after the trail maintenance this year, there are no mandatory gaps or drops, there is no section where you can't come to a complete stop without issue, and the trail still works just fine if you aren't able to carry speed.

Remy Metailler can find 40 foot gaps with sniper landings on blue trails in Whistler Bike Park, that doesn't make them pro lines.
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jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:50)
Trail Off The Grid
The top is fun and flowy, at the split I would recommend NOTG as a much more flowy and fun descent.
The bottom part of Off The Grid has little flow and is to filled with switchbacks to flat sections.
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dirtworship (May 17, 2019 at 22:51)
Trail Off The Grid
Super fun descent, lots of flow but also lots of smashing over roots and rocks. Top notch trail, keeps you guessing with every turn.
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marebearrr (Mar 29, 2019 at 16:34)
Trail Off The Grid
I would definitely say this is a black diamond. At least to me. Lots of obstacles. Lota of right switchbacks, rocks, roots, and drop offs. Lots of work. Fun but very challenging. Not a relaxing swooping downhill. If I were naming this trial: “relentles
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hi-dr-nick Reporter (Sep 11, 2018 at 14:21)
Trail Off The Grid
Definitely not as hard as it sounds. More of a blue/black than a true black. With that said, super fun trail that keeps things interesting throughout its entirety.
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ToddTheBigmac (Mar 31, 2018 at 19:01)
Trail Drop In
Clear of snow. A little wet.
  • + 0
DBoop7 (Oct 13, 2017 at 20:50)
Trail Off The Grid
Was really rainy today but was still a blast!! Lots of slippery rocks and roots though.
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jayacheess (Oct 17, 2015 at 10:20)
Trail Off The Grid
This really is an amazing trail. I'd love to get down there again and ride the new Predator trail.

My only concern with the Tiger mountain riding area is the difficulty ratings seem to be a bit inflated. This trail feels squarely like an Intermediate, and nothing that I saw from POV videos makes Predator look like a double black. But maybe that's a good thing if it keeps unprepared people off the trails? shrug
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boxxerace TRAILFORKS (Jul 24, 2015 at 23:11)
Trail Off The Grid
What a fantastic trail! Wish it went all the way to the bottom.
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More Stats for CDC Stage 5 - Drop In/ OTG (Beginner Only) mountain bike route
  • Altitude change
    -689 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,981 ft
  • Altitude start
    2,670 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,982 ft
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  • Grade min
  • Distance climb
    128 ft
  • Distance down
    1 mile
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Recent Trail Reports Along Route

Off The Grid
Jan 28, 2023 @ 4:20pm
Jan 28, 2023
dropped in from the top of quick link, no snow. big puddle near the bottom, hop over it!
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Nov 11, 2022 @ 2:57pm
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