4.0 miles
Distance
957 ft
Climb
-977 ft
Descent
1,274 ft
High Point

Climb tech trail from Old Buck Trailhead, straight to John Deer, back to Old Buck Parking Lot VIA empress bypass

Detailed Description
Climb to John Deer & Back is a 4 mile popular intermediate route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route can be used both directions and has a hard overall physical rating. This route includes 24 trails. This route climbs 957 ft with a max elevation of 1,274 ft then descends -977 ft.
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71 Reviews & Comments

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theshonen8899 (Sep 12, 2022 at 14:01)
Super fun little flow trail. Great for getting beginners hooked on flow.
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theshonen8899 (Sep 12, 2022 at 14:01)
Super fun little flow trail. Great for getting beginners hooked on flow.
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theshonen8899 (Sep 12, 2022 at 13:59)
Trail John Deer
A guy at the trailhead told me this trail was "easy, fun, and flowy." I actually found it quite challenging, with 2-3 steep areas and many, many roots. Not a black but definitely more challenging than something like Half Nelson. I loved it but my more beginner-intermediate gf was having trouble.
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MarkAdamson (Sep 10, 2022 at 15:09)
Lost my tool pouch at the top of GSM on Saturday September 3rd. Black rubber with a green zip. Souvenir from Moab. Would love to hear from you if you picked it up. 604 839 3579.
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xaibeeh (Sep 6, 2022 at 7:44)
It’s either not a green climb or it’s in very bad shape. I went with a begginer able to clear all good sir martin climb, but had to walk this one.
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LucaBruca (Jul 6, 2022 at 16:21)
I lost my wallet somewhere along here today. If anybody finds a brown leather wallet please call 604-619-6084 - Luc
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LucaBruca (Jul 6, 2022 at 16:21)
I lost my wallet somewhere along here today. If anybody finds a brown leather wallet please call 604-619-6084 - Luc
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LucaBruca (Jul 6, 2022 at 16:20)
Trail John Deer
I lost my wallet somewhere along here today. If anybody finds a brown leather wallet please call 604-619-6084 - Luc
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conrad-hoc (Nov 24, 2021 at 22:47)
Yeah, good climbing trail, although it's humbling when there are parts of this GREEN trail that I can't do clean. Oh well, I am kind of a beginner and definitely suck at climbing!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 20, 2021 at 19:37)
Fun and enjoyable climb.
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:49)
Fun little climb with a wood feature and uphill rock roll.
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:49)
Tough climb coming east!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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liamdubs (Jul 17, 2021 at 21:28)
Please make sure to ring the bell at the intersection of John Deer and Good Sir Martin. If you don't ring the bell your strava/trailforks ride will NOT record this trail. It's real important to ring the bell.
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braydenharris (Jun 26, 2021 at 9:38)
This is possibly better Than Boogie Nights. It's soooo good!
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braydenharris (Jun 26, 2021 at 9:38)
This is possibly better Than Boogie Nights. It's soooo good!
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northshoresteve (Jun 8, 2021 at 19:01)
Awesome little trail. It’s similar to Half Nelson in Squamish, but only one fifth the length. We need more of these on the Shore!
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northshoresteve (Jun 8, 2021 at 19:01)
Awesome little trail. It’s similar to Half Nelson in Squamish, but only one fifth the length. We need more of these on the Shore!
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octet (Feb 27, 2021 at 20:53)
Trail Old Buck
A bit stiff, but also the fastest ride to the top of corkscrew or CBC, IMO. Good Sir Martin is more twisty and detours out of the way, and straight up Buck cuts off a loop on Mtn. Highway. GSM is good for the second lap, since you are already over near Academy, etc.
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octet (Feb 27, 2021 at 20:53)
Trail Old Buck
A bit stiff, but also the fastest ride to the top of corkscrew or CBC, IMO. Good Sir Martin is more twisty and detours out of the way, and straight up Buck cuts off a loop on Mtn. Highway. GSM is good for the second lap, since you are already over near Academy, etc.
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Edu888 (Dec 9, 2020 at 15:52)
Trail Old Buck
Not too bad until it crosses Powerlines, definitely feels like an efficient way to get up the mountain from Old buck lot compared to traversing over to GSM.
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Edu888 (Dec 9, 2020 at 15:52)
Trail Old Buck
Not too bad until it crosses Powerlines, definitely feels like an efficient way to get up the mountain from Old buck lot compared to traversing over to GSM.
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v1979 (Nov 15, 2020 at 19:52)
Trail Old Buck
Steep trail, it's a challenging climb.
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v1979 (Nov 15, 2020 at 19:52)
Trail Old Buck
Steep trail, it's a challenging climb.
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Banders2 (Oct 11, 2020 at 16:53)
Trail Old Buck
Found some glasses at the top today. Let me know if you are looking for them.
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Banders2 (Oct 11, 2020 at 16:53)
Trail Old Buck
Found some glasses at the top today. Let me know if you are looking for them.
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Banders2 (Oct 11, 2020 at 16:50)
Trail Old Buck
Found some glasses at the Baden Powell intersection this afternoon. Let me know if you are looking for them.
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Banders2 (Oct 11, 2020 at 16:50)
Trail Old Buck
Found some glasses at the Baden Powell intersection this afternoon. Let me know if you are looking for them.
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krisrawl00 (Sep 22, 2020 at 16:02)
Trail Penny Lane
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krisrawl00 (Sep 22, 2020 at 16:02)
Trail Penny Lane
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pinker001 (Aug 26, 2020 at 10:31)
Challenging and enjoyable. The trail is pretty steep in some sections with tight switchbacks at steep grade with some rocks to traverse coming through the switchbacks. Physically and technically challenging. I find myself clipping rocks with my pedals and have yet to ride the whole thing without putting a foot down, but I’ll keep trying.
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Coasterby (Jul 18, 2020 at 13:35)
Tons of fun, smooth and windy with nice decent.
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Coasterby (Jul 18, 2020 at 13:35)
Tons of fun, smooth and windy with nice decent.
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Twotterguy SHORE CORPS (Dec 15, 2019 at 10:08)
Trail RT Connector
Got it, thanks to the folks that helped get it off the trail!
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gregmowat (Nov 23, 2019 at 14:51)
Trail John Deer
Not wet weather friendly, maybe in the past but not now. Just finished great run in light rain..
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bboyshredder (Sep 14, 2019 at 17:18)
Trail Old Buck
Steep gravel climb, if your wondering why people shuttle Seymour its the climb, and after you pass the power lines that's when the party starts.
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bboyshredder (Sep 14, 2019 at 17:18)
Trail Old Buck
Steep gravel climb, if your wondering why people shuttle Seymour its the climb, and after you pass the power lines that's when the party starts.
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bboyshredder (Sep 6, 2019 at 21:02)
they just closed it.
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bboyshredder (Sep 6, 2019 at 21:02)
they just closed it.
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bboyshredder (Sep 6, 2019 at 21:02)
they just closed it.
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bboyshredder (Aug 28, 2019 at 17:50)
I love this trail . if you hate climbing stick to the old buck because its way shorter. but its awesome and smooth but penny lane isn't witch is before good sir Martin. not good for bigginer climbers .
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jjanetka (Jul 18, 2019 at 2:03)
Trail John Deer
Everyone I take down this likes it alot.
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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goatslurpee (Apr 19, 2019 at 14:16)
Sooooo sick! Thank you!
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goatslurpee (Apr 19, 2019 at 14:16)
Sooooo sick! Thank you!
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mrj27 (Apr 19, 2019 at 0:46)
Yo this is bike park quality flow now it's awesome! Good job builders!
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mrj27 (Apr 19, 2019 at 0:46)
Yo this is bike park quality flow now it's awesome! Good job builders!
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MKBERGEY1 (Mar 30, 2019 at 17:27)
Ride well and Sheeeessssss nice!! ????????
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jasonwd (Mar 20, 2019 at 6:43)
Totally changed to the smoothest bile park style flow berms on the shore. A refreshing wizz down from all the gnar and chunk further up the mountain. Well done trail fairies.
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jasonwd (Mar 20, 2019 at 6:43)
Totally changed to the smoothest bile park style flow berms on the shore. A refreshing wizz down from all the gnar and chunk further up the mountain. Well done trail fairies.
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taprider (Mar 3, 2019 at 8:13)
Trail Old Buck
90% clear of snow
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taprider (Mar 3, 2019 at 8:13)
Trail Old Buck
90% clear of snow
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crashelman (Sep 14, 2018 at 11:29)
Nice technical climbing alternative
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JacksonThack (Sep 9, 2018 at 12:24)
This is very challenging for a blue trail. It’s steep in sections and full of rock berms and rock gardens. Lots of fun for an intermediate rider!
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JacksonThack (Sep 9, 2018 at 12:24)
This is very challenging for a blue trail. It’s steep in sections and full of rock berms and rock gardens. Lots of fun for an intermediate rider!
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leelau (May 4, 2016 at 21:16)
Trail John Deer
Originally built by Bryce Borlick in 2011 www.pinkbike.com/video/434491

Ridden respectfully and mainly in the dry for 4 glorious years. Shut down in 2014-5. Re-opened and given new life by Martin & Penny.
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DMal SHORE CORPS (Dec 24, 2015 at 9:16)
Trail Penny Lane
Possibly my favourite section of the Seymour climb. The corners are open enough that you can get some good uphill flow going. And it takes you right to the rowdy part of Severed, perfect for tacking a little bit more onto the end of a ride.
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DMal SHORE CORPS (Dec 24, 2015 at 9:16)
Trail Penny Lane
Possibly my favourite section of the Seymour climb. The corners are open enough that you can get some good uphill flow going. And it takes you right to the rowdy part of Severed, perfect for tacking a little bit more onto the end of a ride.
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Sharonb (Nov 15, 2015 at 18:33)
Trail Pussyfoot
nice!
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meloroast (Oct 15, 2015 at 13:44)
this trail rides like a dream. absolutely love it! great work!!
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CRich78 (Aug 10, 2015 at 16:03)
Phenomenal climbing trail. Thanks for all the beautiful work Martin and Penny. Rode GSM for the first time today and enjoyed every inch of it. It's so great to be able to loop back to Baden without having to head over to Old Buck or Hyannis. Awesome. I'll definitely be heading up to ride some Seymour loops more often. Thanks again!
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bikejunky (Jul 23, 2015 at 10:10)
Stung. Twice. Ouch. Great trail nonetheless.
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DMal SHORE CORPS (Jul 13, 2015 at 10:20)
Great climbing trail. It climbs through a beautiful part of the forest, and the grade is nice and moderate.
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moballa (Jul 12, 2015 at 21:01)
My son and I rode Good Sir this morning which allowed us to do a couple of laps up there which doesn't happen often for us. The trail meanders beautifully through pristine forest and feels like it's been there forever - a testament to the fantastic engineering and careful planning that went into this right down to the precise fern transplanting! "Isn't this awesome!" was echoed by many of the other excited riders we encountered along the trail today. Congratulations Martin and Penny and to all the other volunteers! Good Sir Martin will be one of the most enjoyed trails on the north shore.
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frenchfriedfun (Jul 10, 2015 at 15:34)
the Christmas corner is sick ! and the bunch after that too..
sick trail
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  • Riding area
  • Primary Activity
    Mountain Bike
  • Difficulty rating
    Blue
  • Route Type
    Loop
  • eBike Allowed
  • Bike type
    AM, XC
  • Direction
    Both Directions
  • Physical rating
    Hard
  • Ridelogs
    795
More Stats for Climb to John Deer & Back mountain bike route
  • Altitude min
    418 ft
  • Altitude start
    438 ft
  • Altitude end
    417 ft
  • Grade
    -0.1%
  • Grade max
    -56.3%
  • Grade min
    33.7%
  • Distance climb
    2 miles
  • Distance down
    2 miles
  • Distance flat
    1,027 ft
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