6.8 miles
1,828 ft
-1,796 ft
3,598 ft
High Point
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Easy fire road start to spread people out, then single track for the remaining 50% of the climb.
Followed by one long descent to beer o'clock

Detailed Description
COMMENCAL TOONIE is a 7 mile intermediate race route located near Whistler British Columbia. This mountain bike only route. This route includes 10 trails. This route climbs 1,828 ft with a max elevation of 3,598 ft then descends -1,796 ft.
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49 Reviews & Comments

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TheGregor (Aug 16, 2022 at 12:28)
I absolutely love this trail. One of my favourites in Whistler. Great features, tough climbs - a real all rounder trail. Have yet to ride it clean but will be proud when I do! Check it out!
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luckylegz (Aug 5, 2022 at 17:51)
Not the most exciting trail. Lots of work to get to the top of it and altitude drops fast with little fun.
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Aussierob (Aug 5, 2022 at 16:40)
Cleaned up the logs across the trail today and some of the overgrown alder. The trail is in good shape for up or down. Note that Upper Babylon by bike has been deactivated as far as I know. (no longer on map). The mid section is still OK.
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flipfantasia WORCA (Aug 5, 2022 at 16:44)
Upper has not been deactivated.
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Aussierob (Aug 5, 2022 at 16:48)
OK. I'd been told the hike a bike with a climbing rope had been deemed too dangerous.
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luckylegz (Aug 4, 2022 at 21:08)
Not worth the effort to climb to the top of this via MicroWave. Just a wide ATV trail with the odd berm and jump.
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UteEppinger (Aug 3, 2022 at 19:11)
Perfect trail, so picturesque, great flow, beautiful rock and wood features. Thank you, Duncan
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IanKopp (Jul 10, 2022 at 19:47)
For those curious: it takes about 15 minutes to reach the trailhead climbing the microwave access road from the valley trail.

Also, amazing work done recently - just the right mix of polish and grit. Huge thanks to the trail builders.
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TimmoWhistler (Jun 28, 2022 at 17:28)
Awesome new tweaks to the trail, nice work WORCA trail crew! The changes have made riding the trail smoother and faster.

If you've previously ridden this trail and found it a fraction too difficult, it's worth checking it out now.
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patricknoel (May 25, 2022 at 0:07)
Wicked trail! Go give it a try.
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TheGregor (May 13, 2022 at 21:32)
One of my absolute favourite trails. Cool features, tough uphill sections. Just a really great ride. Have done it several times and will do it many more too!
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Waziooi (May 1, 2022 at 19:39)
Trail AM/PM
Warning: if you are one of the many blue-black riders who enjoyed riding this trail (especially in combination with After Hours), you may now want to stay away, as WORCA has decided to remove two ride-arounds on difficult features, leaving the trail's difficulty solidly in the single black category. I am sure that you will still be able to walk around the features on the side of the trail and that riders will create their own organic ride-around braids soon as they continue to ride this trail, but just be warned for now that this beloved trail is apparently no longer meant for you, and that the people who ride the main line need to be prioritized Smile
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bmccrady (May 2, 2022 at 8:59)
Trail AM/PM
Go ride lost lake instead
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Waziooi (May 2, 2022 at 9:06)
Trail AM/PM
WORCA apparently seems to agree with you, despite the fact that they've been building nothing but hard blues/easy blacks for the last 5 years
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SummitCycles (Nov 6, 2021 at 13:56)
See Colours and Puke got absolutely pummelled with 200 racers riding down it during a torrential rainstorm in October - way more damage than regular recreational riding and storms over the past 3 years.
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Sanderson22 (Sep 9, 2021 at 16:34)
Probably the quickest access to See Colours and Puke. Photos do not depict the trail at all (maybe they’re from the (mid) Babylon.
  • + 1
evanfdr (Jul 11, 2021 at 15:39)
Trail AM/PM
Best trail!!! Good technical bits with easy work arounds. Would highly recommend. Flatter and flowy near the bottom. Good for intermediate rider.
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jakerajotte (May 13, 2021 at 18:34)
still snow at 1070 contour line
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Jxroussel (May 12, 2021 at 17:19)
Not sure what the point of this trail is. Smooth and fast. uphill leads nowhere. Downhill is okay but not worth the climb.
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kermitbmx (May 6, 2021 at 17:35)
Trail AM/PM
Closed right now
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MtnGoat-WTR (Jul 26, 2020 at 15:22)
Black bear encounter today, the 26 July, 2020 just below the double rock garden roll into the ladder ramp. Mom and cub and we all parted ways happily.
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Silencedogood21 (Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47)
Trail Farside
Don’t be fooled by the green status. This trail is as fun as you make it.

A zippy way to get up to high side etc and a fun flowy one to ride down.

Be mindful and respectful of hikers
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Silencedogood21 (Jul 16, 2020 at 10:45)
This was my first black trail in whistler when I rode it last summer.

Certainly not for the feint of heart but very rewarding for advanced riders with some great viewpoints.
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egirardin (Jun 11, 2020 at 18:34)
Trail Farside
Good flowy trail, especially with my younger kids. Lots of people hiking / biking both directions so stay alert.
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miff (Jun 8, 2020 at 11:20)
Waste of time. Basically a crappier version of Crank It Up except you have to climb up to it.
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grillmaster420 (Jun 4, 2020 at 12:21)
Trail AM/PM
This trail is the tits ????
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madisonwallinger (May 20, 2020 at 9:52)
Highly suggest you don’t use this as a climb trail alternative to get to See Colours and Puke. So many branches/trees are down and it’s covered it snow. Quite the type 2 struggle fest
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whererusteve (May 6, 2020 at 17:04)
Really Good! Great early season run. Good test of well-rounded ness as DH'ers will want to cry on the uphill portions. But the down makes it all worth it. Something for everyone! I'm not saying anything new except that if you've never seen Flight of the Conchords you should, and the name of this trail will make much more sense!
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ckuurn (Nov 3, 2019 at 7:52)
Trail Far Out 1
Great little loop if you don’t have very much time.although it is more of a green square for whistler
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joniwirts (Sep 21, 2019 at 12:39)
I love this trail. Everyone has a different opinion as to how difficult it is. I found it challenging but not scary. For some perspective, I race enduro in pro women’s category and I love tech trails. There are a handful of uphills that I wouldn’t miss but all-in-all, the descending portions make the trail super fun. I love the rock rolls.
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mataudibert (Aug 29, 2019 at 17:55)
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bmactweets (Aug 8, 2019 at 8:32)
Trail AM/PM
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amytyler89 (Jul 18, 2019 at 17:57)
Trail AM/PM
THERE IS A LOG FALLEN DOWN AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND ROCK ROLL. OTHERWISE Great trail and is riding really nice since we have had a bit of rain.
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deln78 (Jul 7, 2019 at 10:34)
Did the upper part to am/pm. Amazing and eye-opening trail. Need to come back and do the rest.
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deln78 (Jul 7, 2019 at 10:31)
Trail AM/PM
Essentially two trails in one. A direct line down with huge rowdy drops, and a more mellow (but still black diamond) run that switchbacks around the direct line, with some smaller drops.
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chubby5000 (Oct 20, 2018 at 12:29)
I found the first half of this trail up to the AM/PM intersection to be super difficult with tons of climbing and wasn’t really sure if it was worth the climb. But after that? Oooooooh Nelly!!!! So good. Little jumps and drops and rolls and slabs and berms and all the cool things about biking packed into one little descent.
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BrioHouseWhistler (Aug 27, 2018 at 16:30)
Trail Farside
Tree down across trail about 1km along from FSR
  • + 1
aaronkoenig (Aug 26, 2018 at 21:26)
Trail AM/PM
Extremely fun flow trail with jumps, step downs and rock rolls. Trail can be much dustier than other Whistler ones in the heat of the summer. Short trail so quick and easy to lap.
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NovemberCharlie (Jun 17, 2018 at 17:03)
Much fun and well worth the climb. Fast and flowy, berms for days and few optional hits and jumps along the way. Nice and wide, could be riders climbing this trail too so keep your eyes open.
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NovemberCharlie (Jun 17, 2018 at 17:01)
Lower Babylon is a great climbing trail to access See Colours And Puke. It is a bit overgrown in spots, be prepared to duck under some low branches and be prepared to do a little bit of hike a bike but it is all well worth it. Would not be a very fun trail to ride down. Recommended to climb only.
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NovemberCharlie (May 28, 2018 at 19:16)
This is an amazing trail, a must ride for the confident shredders out there. It is challenging for intermediate level riders, first timers can probably expect to do a little pushing in the steep climb sections as momentum is key but dont let that put you off. The downhill flow is epic! I will ride this trail again and again.
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v102013 (May 10, 2018 at 14:12)
Trail AM/PM
Awesome Trail so much fun to ride one of the best flow trails that's not part of the bike park in Whistler!
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aaronkoenig (Sep 16, 2017 at 8:56)
Mostly just a fast ripper with a few berms, switchbacks and jumps. Trail would be a good one to turn into a bit more of a jump trail like Galbraiths SST
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aaronkoenig (Aug 20, 2017 at 22:06)
The current trail description includes Upper Babylon. Lower Babylon is straight with little change in grade. No reason to bike down this. Going up lets you get to See colours and Puke and the HIgh trails and is a bit of a slog though not a high grade
  • - 2
Scooterchick (Jul 11, 2017 at 8:56)
June 28, 2017 Rode this horrible overgrown, blowdown, mosquito infested trail using Trail Forks recommendations as a guide. We rode up it (trailforks recommendation/punishment). Don't waste your time, the trail down (See Corners and Puke) wasn't worth the climb...boring. AND, I Lost my Oakleys up there.
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bcpunk CL (Aug 22, 2016 at 10:23)
This trail solidly puts the mountain biking back in mountain biking... sooo goooood. #IDon'tRidePark
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boomforeal (Aug 24, 2014 at 21:47)
this trail f*cking rules
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flipfantasia WORCA (Jul 29, 2014 at 11:46)
riders also climb this trail, keep your head up when descending
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flipfantasia WORCA (Jul 29, 2014 at 11:40)
Trail Farside
this is a multi-use trail, not biking primary.


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More Stats for COMMENCAL TOONIE mountain bike route
  • Altitude change
    32 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,983 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,984 ft
  • Altitude end
    2,018 ft
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  • Distance climb
    4 miles
  • Distance down
    3 miles
  • Distance flat
    489 ft
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I noticed a pretty big safety issue on the trail today WORCA may want to address. There is a stump on the side of the trail pretty close to the bottom that is just waiting patiently to skewer someone. It's right at the end of a pretty fast section and on the outside of a corner. If someone lost control going fast into that corner it could be pretty messy if they landed right on the stump. It's maybe three or for corners up from the bottom of the trail on the left.
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