Complete Don Valley Shred route

Sky Pilot is the best option when the fences are up, then you can climb back up at the PA Upline to bypass it.

yeah, from Old Catalyst to Party atmosphere.

likely merged bc of the name

The city recognizes them as different trails on their maps. Sanitation Plant is in Crothers Woods and The Ridge is in Don Valley. I’d just leave it

Makes sense to me!

Seriously… I was just getting the hang of tremco ffs…

I noticed the same thing on some of the foreplay switchbacks too..

I've been noticing this happening more and more! and not just here but other sections too.
Always at the crux section where you had to use a bit of technique and finesse to make it without dabbing. All made too easy now.

If the person doing this is reading this: if you simply must make the trails more like road riding, do it by _adding_ dirt. Or even rocks. Seriously: it will have the same effect, and when you finally decide to take up riding in a velodrome where you belong, the rest of us can at least undo your hack-job attempt at trail maintenance and enjoy the trails again.

...its one of 3...looser newbie, strava champ, or gravel warrior to pass easy.
Regardless...STOP this sh.t...and pray you wont get caught while you hack away our fun. Dumbing down to match your dumb self...f off already!

I know multiple people are on the look out to catch this punk...I think we should make a small signs and place them in location where he chopped out the challenge to let him know...maybe he is not on those platforms(most likely he is)

A sign is sometimes a good idea. You'll most likely never catch the person.

I had a similar thing happen on a local trail; people where cutting a corner by like 10 feet, just to avoid some roots. I'd pile logs and trees over the shortcut, but within days they'd be gone. Repeated this process 2 or 3 times before I printed up a sign, laminated and tied it to a stick over a new pile of logs telling them to screw off.

They must have got the hint because that pile of logs is still there a few years later.

Found a picture of that sign

i.imgur.com/hADnHqj.jpeg

I believe the new line after the wall ride is being built by the original builder, might be wrong though

Nah Dude, he is just trying to claim the trail...It was collective effort of OG builders and riders...

Oh, my bad then

It’s better to add this as a trail report, as more people will see the warning

will do.

I believe it's to stop riders from accessing bunny poop, which is closed due to construction on Don Mills

That section is known as 'Moartown' and is unfortunately hidden off of trailforks, but at the end of moartown when you reach the paved path, directly across is another trail 'noodle doodle' (also hidden) that will bring you back to the bridge, then you just ride the new metal bridges back to motown.

This video shows where I'm talking about at the end: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOdAsNdJVhU
(not my video)

Oh thx, trail is pretty fresh. That's why there's a chuck-huck floating. GD clever name. Should have tought of it.

That doesn't sound fun, for future reference, when you get to the train tracks, directly across them leads back down to a trail called standard deviation that can take you back to the main valley.

Or across the train bridge and then to your right is the start of Kitchen sink and Dr Quads.

Hope this helps

yikes what happened?

yikes what happened?

Yeah I think it was because of the name, they just decided to merge the 2 instead of changing it

I agree, but as with Party Down, it's more for keeping less experienced riders off so they don't get injured.

I think when the new start hill was built someone changed it to db

With the amount of traffic in the don, it is better to over estimate the difficultly factor and hopefully keep under capable riders out of the big stuff, someone gets hurt and trails get shut down.. plus this party down exit is similar to the wallride section on flowster which is double black..

Reading the edit note in the description, it looks like it wasn't the builders who merged the trails (on trailforks), I think that the builders were trying to keep both trails when building, not delete one

I think they should have just been left to co-exist, if they wanted garbage cow to be re-routed why would they have built a jump over the trail to keep it?

The Don already has a ton of unnecessarily added trails that promote trail braiding, connectors and shortcuts.

IMO, the old garbage cow trailforks route was dangerous, it told you to ride uphill (backwards) on a much more popular downhill only trail.

I agree that you shouldn't ride the trash panda backwards, but the section where you ride north on the trash panda section was flat where no one would have extreme speeds.

IMO since the garbage cow was built before trash panda, it wasn't added to braid or shortcut the trails, and doesn't pose a great risk.

You might want to do your research, on who built the trails before you go giving the credit to someone who's never taken part. That certainly wasn't my vision. And will never be. 2 sperate groups built the sperate trails. Timothy Charles owner of torba for foreplay. And Me and Hubble. Rollerflowster, however I was called Smiths Edge from 2013-15, before we finalized the trail from impatient riders.

What happened to the original fourplay entrance?

The original switchback climb just over the fence? It's still there. All of it is from my knowledge. Only been that far once this season.

It is now one continuous trail with RollerFlowster.

not fully sure, I have a feeling it was because of the name, like party down (BoT), and Standard Deviation (STD). And it was probably easier to just merge em

@willawrence27 the trail builder who made it had envisioned it to be one trail. you can go to @donvalleytrails on Instagram to learn more!

Didn't know there was an instagram, thanks!

Gotcha. Thanks!

I wonder if there would be a way to ask trail forks to archive the old results and do a reset for the new trail... One can hope

Oh good idea, I'll ask an admin if it would be possible.

Does the leaderboard actually show old results? Or is it already updated to the new longer segment?

currently shows the records for rollerflowster from when it wasn't merged with fourplay. I dont think its humanly possible to do both flowster + fourplay in under 3min.

OK so I asked Trailforks support, and there is currently no way to reset the leaderboard, but they are working on adding it.

What was it called before?

Big Ol' Titties / BoT

It's a great new name. Thank goodness.

Didn't realize you replied, its this parking lot www.trailforks.com/poi/5019

Always wondered who built all these trails, cool to see the account behind them!

Cool to be able to see all the trails on Trailforks. I wrote this short description on my facebook page. Nothing to hide anymore - back then was not the same relationship with the city. LOL - coming out of the closet thirty years later. Back in the late 1980's, early 1990's I built mountain bike trails in the Don valley, Toronto. Mountain biking was in it's infancy back then. The epi center was Sunnybrook park. We would meet and ride crazy drop-offs and build crazy trails. The city decided to ban us because of erosion and being a public park . So I started building trails in the ravines of the Don valley. From Pottery road to Sunnybrook. Crothers woods, sewage plant, ridge, pre-catalyst - I spent many hours after work clearing away the undergrowth. My trails were very narrow, steep and crazy switchbacks. the harder the better! Initially the city was anti mountain biking and tried to close down the trails. During this time I started building in the East Don. far away from prying eyes. I built crazy trails with crazy drop-offs. They quickly gained a cult following. Others came in and built wooden north shore type features. The East Don was amazing. In the years since the city took over the west Don trails, removed all the crazy stuff, did a lot of rerouting. I was happy to see that. Only my friends know it was me that started it all. So why am I writing this. After moving to Nova Scotia I've been looking at Trailforks to find interesting trails to run and hopefully gravel bike next summer. I saw the trails in the Don Valley and started reminiscing. I came upon the write up for Boomerang, a trail I built in Taylor creek park. I never did finish it, the city shut it down. But today it is well established and in the description I'm recognized as the builder. I felt proud and thought I've got nothing to hide thirty years later. So that's my legacy to mountain biking in Toronto. Happy to see it so vibrant.

Thank you for all the awesome trails you built!

Wow. Cyborg. The man, the myth, the legend! Great to hear you're still in the trail building game. Thanks for all of the hard work you put in The Don all those years ago! If you're ever in Toronto and want a tour of the new stuff let me know.

No, I haven't where are the flags?

Looks like someone is building a new connector from the new parking lot to the start of Climbmax. It’s “lowMax” on Trailforks

Oh ya, I've ridden that trail, NECP hid it off the map though

Probably for the best, needs time to pack in

I couldnt find lowmax on trailforks where should I be looking

The city of Toronto's account NECP has admin permission for the area, and they apparently didn;t approve of the trail, so they hid it from the map.

the flags are near part of the trail where it goes really close to the road and seams as if its a by pass of the big ass role right before the ejaculator

if one were to go there next year where would one find it then

The start is right after the paved trail splits off at the east end of ET Seaton Lot #2, Its bench-cut along the hill to your left (if you face east) and connects to Climbmax

There may or may not be a big rock in front of the entrance, I can't remember completely.

City took it out. Honestly, probably for the best with the amount of traffic in the Don this year

Preach!

You can either cross the railroad tracks onto STD, and it will take you back to the paved trail. Or you can go north on the railroad tracks, and climb up Lookout Trail which can bring you to Dr. Quads.

If you mean the wallride, Roller Flowster also has a large one

Yes! Buy him beer. Many many beers. But nothing with hops. I hear he doesn't like hops!

The entrance is on the east side of Bayview in between Sunnybrook Hospital and the CNIB. It's in a gravel parking lot. There are a few trail entrances there. Take the one on the North side of the lot. Have fun!

Rad Art, too.

You get it boi!

I'm definitely NOT an advanced rider and I can ride this. Just don't go wild until you know what's coming around the next bend. I think the double-black rating is just to warn people to keep it cool, until you've learned this one.

I just did bunny run in both directions. It is easier going north and ending at the archery range. Starting at the archery range is harder...and there's a little hole on the trail at one point that you gotta watch out for which i didn't even notice going north.

thanks for the tip! will try it soon, going north this time!

Agreed - this is really the only trail that I get worried about riding on; you wouldn't want one false move on the down-slope of the saddle.

TOTALLY AGREE. This is the ONLY trail I'm afraid to hike down. No workarounds, no tree roots to get a footing. I've gotten to the same point 3 times and been unable to continue west toward Rehab trail. For this reason it should be upgraded to Black D.