7.1 miles
Distance
1,356 ft
Climb
-1,355 ft
Descent
1,416 ft
High Point
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Fiver #5 - Presented by Norco John Henry Bikes

The gang from Norco John Henry are sponsoring this week, last year they put on a spread of great burgers, looking forward to seeing what they have for this year.

Sign in will run from 5:45pm to 6:45pm. There is no fixed start time, you can start out onto the course once you have signed in.

Remember you MUST be a current paid NSMBA member to participate.
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Stage 1: New Severed entrance - BP - Power lines - Forever After

Stage 2: Lower Forever After (starting at the top of the climb, ending at Bridal)

Stage 3: High School League (starting from the west climbing side and finishing on the exit to Hyannis trail)

Return Transition via Hyannis Drive to Blair Range trail to Golf Course climbing trail.

The return transition is just a suggested route, feel free to ride back along Bridal if you want some extra trail distance, just remember to return to the Start/Finish location in Parkgate Park to return your timing tag.

Detailed Description
Fiver #5 - Presented by Norco John Henry Bikes is a 7 mile intermediate race route located near North Vancouver British Columbia. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a moderate overall physical rating. This route includes 15 trails. This route climbs 1,356 ft with a max elevation of 1,416 ft then descends -1,355 ft.
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52 Reviews & Comments

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cuartodorado (Jul 10, 2022 at 18:14)
I lost my googles today 10-07-22 around 11:00 am, I believe on this trail (or Old Buck to connect with Badew Powell) on my way up to take John Deer. Please send me a message if you found them, thanks.
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LucaBruca (Jul 6, 2022 at 16:21)
I lost my wallet somewhere along here today. If anybody finds a brown leather wallet please call 604-619-6084 - Luc
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conrad-hoc (Jul 6, 2022 at 10:06)
Rode a section of this today for the first time. Climbed GSM and wanted to get to Forever After, so we took Baden Powell. BP to Severed D was pretty fun. More black than blue, in my opinion. From Severed towards Forever it got even steeper and more treacherous. You've been warned!
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xaibeeh (Apr 27, 2022 at 19:53)
Any plans to do this trail rideable from Hyannis to forever after area? Would open a new world of possibilities! I’m in to help build something to make this climb good enough to not want to die
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NathanSW7c0h (Apr 18, 2022 at 8:38)
Nothing but blue on this one
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subieoutlaw (Feb 13, 2022 at 16:06)
Fun fun fun. Smooth and fast XC trail.
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liamdubs (Feb 9, 2022 at 20:40)
The direction is basically wrong. It is 100% unrideable from forever after to severed upwards, but is a spicy treat downwards.
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conrad-hoc (Oct 14, 2021 at 11:33)
great trail. fun to learn on. I like that its a loop
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Mcyeetus (Oct 2, 2021 at 21:48)
Trail Bridle Path
Fun xc trail/connector trail with some fun optional features to have fun on!
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Chenzone (Sep 12, 2021 at 14:30)
How in the world is this a green trail? Took this instead of Bridle Path because I was knackered and it is IMO a lot harder than the ladder.
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Kazuaki (Aug 19, 2021 at 18:33)
I’d rate it a dark blue on the downhill parts. And full black on the uphill parts. I gotta get better at climbing!
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braydenharris (Jun 26, 2021 at 9:38)
This is possibly better Than Boogie Nights. It's soooo good!
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northshoresteve (Jun 8, 2021 at 19:01)
Awesome little trail. It’s similar to Half Nelson in Squamish, but only one fifth the length. We need more of these on the Shore!
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octet (Feb 27, 2021 at 20:53)
Trail Old Buck
A bit stiff, but also the fastest ride to the top of corkscrew or CBC, IMO. Good Sir Martin is more twisty and detours out of the way, and straight up Buck cuts off a loop on Mtn. Highway. GSM is good for the second lap, since you are already over near Academy, etc.
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kyleluvsdh (Feb 11, 2021 at 22:30)
We should really adopt the New Zealand trail grading system in Canada. It bridges the gap nicely between between 'hard blue's' and 'easy black's'. Windrock Bike Park, TN. Adopted the NZ grading system in the past year as well. It makes sense. Here's what it would look like:

NZ Trail Grading System:

Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
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taprider (Feb 6, 2021 at 21:38)
Going up from the west side should be the new Impossible Climb Challenge for Pink Bike.
Just try to clean it without puking, actually great Type 2 Fun, I highly recommend it
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DHDH (Jan 26, 2021 at 16:58)
Has about 5” of medium-pack snow on it.
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Edu888 (Dec 9, 2020 at 15:52)
Trail Old Buck
Not too bad until it crosses Powerlines, definitely feels like an efficient way to get up the mountain from Old buck lot compared to traversing over to GSM.
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vtradez (Nov 15, 2020 at 19:52)
Trail Old Buck
Steep trail, it's a challenging climb.
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muitodoido (Oct 18, 2020 at 20:00)
IMO The upper half of the trail would be hard pressed to be classified as green even by North Shore standards.
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Banders2 (Oct 11, 2020 at 16:53)
Trail Old Buck
Found some glasses at the top today. Let me know if you are looking for them.
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Banders2 (Oct 11, 2020 at 16:50)
Trail Old Buck
Found some glasses at the Baden Powell intersection this afternoon. Let me know if you are looking for them.
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Elmeffe (Oct 2, 2020 at 10:46)
These comments are no joke. Avoid climbing from Hyannis at all cost.
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Valkandoit (Sep 5, 2020 at 14:21)
Went down this hill and it was not a nice ride. Loose rock and not beautiful or peaceful. Wouldn’t take this path again!
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Coasterby (Jul 18, 2020 at 13:35)
Tons of fun, smooth and windy with nice decent.
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Dukechillington (Jun 29, 2020 at 22:48)
Awesome trail! Less busy then other areas and super fun on an e-bike with it’s XC flow. Rode on a wet day after almost dying on Dales (no, seriously!) thinking Forever After would be more of the same but was pleasantly surprised!
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bboyshredder (Mar 20, 2020 at 8:35)
Don't get tricked by how it looks on the map its very steep and long don't go up it trust me I tried to and I almost died.
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rockfears (Mar 9, 2020 at 23:32)
Should have read the comments before trying to climb this trail... steeeeeeep!!!! Almost impossible to reach the top without pushing!
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0ut5ide (Nov 24, 2019 at 17:00)
Nice conditions today. Good grip on the rocks. Just a few puddles.
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bboyshredder (Sep 14, 2019 at 17:18)
Trail Old Buck
Steep gravel climb, if your wondering why people shuttle Seymour its the climb, and after you pass the power lines that's when the party starts.
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jjanetka (Aug 30, 2019 at 20:21)
Great trail. Nice ride from 2nd switchback parking lot from Corkscrew to Mushroom to Dales to Forever. Yes, probably deserves the black - a few spots are a little tricky if you are going slower (I'm sure the faster just float over this rough stuff). Not a flashy trail but still a good ride.
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Mike1001 (Aug 14, 2019 at 21:33)
This is basically a hike a bike trail for at least half of it.... the bikeable part is just a boring connector to other bikeable trails
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dirtbiker100 (Jul 19, 2019 at 22:31)
For visiting riders - don't try going up this one from the valley bottom...
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ataraxie (Jun 9, 2019 at 22:30)
Forever After is my favorite trail on Seymour! I like how it's mostly downhill with a few XC sections in between. It makes it seem a loong ride! I think it deserves the black rating. It's harder than other black ones like Corkskrew in my opinion.
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javabk (Jun 4, 2019 at 20:52)
This is mostly hike a bike trail
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 10:57)
Trail Bridle Path
Had some good rides. Probably easier with a full suspension bike.
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goatslurpee (Apr 19, 2019 at 14:16)
Sooooo sick! Thank you!
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mrj27 (Apr 19, 2019 at 0:46)
Yo this is bike park quality flow now it's awesome! Good job builders!
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jasonwd (Mar 20, 2019 at 6:43)
Totally changed to the smoothest bile park style flow berms on the shore. A refreshing wizz down from all the gnar and chunk further up the mountain. Well done trail fairies.
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jalee (Mar 13, 2019 at 23:21)
Such a good trail. Has the most diversity of the trails I routinely ride on the shore. Mixed technical XC and all mountain. It’s a blast through beautiful forest. I would say a must ride after Dale’s, in addition to Pangor my other favourite on Seymour
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taprider (Mar 3, 2019 at 8:13)
Trail Old Buck
90% clear of snow
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JacksonThack (Sep 9, 2018 at 13:53)
Fun, pedalling flowy trail
Don’t be caught of guard by sudden climbs
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JacksonThack (Sep 9, 2018 at 12:24)
This is very challenging for a blue trail. It’s steep in sections and full of rock berms and rock gardens. Lots of fun for an intermediate rider!
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rskibobirney (Jul 15, 2018 at 18:57)
Ridiculously good fun, well-maintained trail. Starting with a couple of banked turns, you’re thrown into fast rolling trail with a couple of small drops. Suitable for newbies (like me) and I’m sure would still be fun for experienced riders.
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Shokunin (Sep 11, 2017 at 20:06)
I'm new to the shore, but this trail was so hard for a blue. Even compared to some other blues in the area.
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paulbc (Sep 11, 2017 at 20:26)
You're not the only one who thinks that. Last summer, there was a piece of tape on the entrance sign, right under the word "Harder", that said "...than any other blue trail". Call it navy blue.
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Shokunin (Sep 13, 2017 at 20:07)
Good to know I'm not the only one Smile The trail looks a lot more mellow in that video from 2014 too.
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WilliamCornock (Mar 4, 2018 at 14:33)
Was just up there yesterday and it had a black diamond on the sign. They must have changed it quite recently.
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trevmillion (Aug 29, 2014 at 17:35)
very fun XC trail. Minimal roots, some small drops and a lot of rolling terrain. Well maintained
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canadaka Trailforks (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:56)
This section gps'ed on Seymour is mostly all rideable. The section from "Old Buck" to the Powerlines was upgraded last winter for an easier climb and is used a lot.

The descent portion from the powerlines to the "BP to Powerline Connector" was upgraded for the BC Bike Race. The trail after this point is not rideable, it gets very steep with steps. Once it hits "Bridle Path" its rideable again.
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trevmillion (Aug 28, 2014 at 12:17)
how much of this trail can you ride bike on?
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  • Race Course
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  • Primary Activity
    Mountain Bike
  • Difficulty rating
    Blue
  • Route Type
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  • Direction
    One Direction
  • Physical rating
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  • Ridelogs
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More Stats for Fiver #5 - Presented by Norco John Henry Bikes mountain bike route
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    346 ft
  • Altitude start
    346 ft
  • Altitude end
    348 ft
  • Grade max
    -70.1%
  • Grade min
    84.7%
  • Distance climb
    4 miles
  • Distance down
    3 miles
  • Distance flat
    1,768 ft
Avg: 5 (1 votes)
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