2 miles
Distance
365 ft
Climb
-743 ft
Descent
00:39:43
Avg time
Trail Supporters, Builders & Maintainers of Baden Powell (Fromme Section) Trail

Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Mount Fromme
    North Vancouver, British Columbia
  • Difficulty Rating
    Blue rate
  • Voted Difficulty
    Black Diamond (4 votes)
  • Hiking SAC Scale
    T1 Hiking
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    AM, XC
  • Trail Usage
    Multi-use
  • Direction
    Both Directions
    Popular direction shown
  • Climb Difficulty
    Black Diamond
  • Physical Rating
    Hard
  • Trail Visibility
    Always easy to follow
  • Season
    Year round
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • TTFs on Trail
    Bridge
  • Ride in Rain
    Yes
  • Global Ranking
    #34478 in Mountain Biking
  • Local Popularity
    15 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 5 in Trail Running
    • 55 in Hiking
  • Land Manager
    District of North Vancouver

Mostly a hiking trail but like most of the trails on Fromme, can be ridden. The trail is used to connect various trails on Fromme, or as a cross-mountain transport.

Local Trail Association
More Stats for Baden Powell (Fromme Section) bike trail
  • Altitude change
    -378 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,068 ft
  • Altitude max
    1,648 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,445 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,068 ft
  • Grade
    -3.615%
  • Grade max
    -43.302%
  • Grade min
    24.708%
  • Distance climb
    4,382 ft
  • Distance down
    1 miles
  • Distance flat
    317 ft
  • Avg time
    00:39:43
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Status:
on Oct 3, 2019
Variable
Avg: 2.8 (32 votes)

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  • Snow Groomed
  • Snow Packed
  • Snow Covered
  • Freeze/thaw Cycle
  • Icy
  • Prevalent Mud
  • Wet
  • Variable
  • Dry
  • Very Dry
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  • One Direction
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Trail Difficulties
  • Access Road/Trail
  • White
  • Green
  • Blue
  • Black
  • Double Black Diamond

Trail Report Status
  • Clear / Green
  • Minor Issue / Yellow
  • Significant Issue / Amber
  • Closed

  • Land Owner Overlay
  • Wilderness (typically no bikes in USA)
  • BLM (public)
  • USFS (Wildlife sanctuaries darker than usfs)
  • State land
  • Indigenous
  • Military
Trail Conditions
  • Unknown
  • Snow Groomed
  • Snow Packed
  • Snow Covered
  • Freeze/thaw Cycle
  • Icy
  • Prevalent Mud
  • Wet
  • Variable
  • Dry
  • Very Dry
  • Map Markers
  • trail Trail Head
  • photo Photo
  • place Directory Listing
  • region Riding Area
  • TTF TTF
  • Parking Parking
  • Viewpoint Viewpoint
  • Information Information
  • Warning Warning
  • Directions Directions
  • Sight Sight
  • Restrooms Restrooms
  • eBike Charging Point eBike Charging Point
  • Water Fountain/Source Water Fountain/Source
  • Gate Gate
  • Trail Sign Trail Sign
  • Table or Bench Table or Bench
  • Ladder Ladder
  • Stairs Stairs
  • Bridge Bridge
  • Camping Camping
  • Cabin Cabin
  • Lodge Lodge
  • Bear Cache Bear Cache
  • Dock Dock
  • Ranger Station Ranger Station
  • Summit Summit
  • Other Other
      Directions to baden-powell-fromme-section trailhead (49.355250, -123.073650)
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      Baden Powell... Trail Reports

      statusdatedescription
      Oct 3, 2019 @ 2:48pm
      Oct 3, 2019
      		 reporter did some work on the bottom last night... bear free.
      Sep 30, 2019 @ 9:50am
      Sep 30, 2019
      		 reporter Tree has been cleared.
      Sep 29, 2019 @ 11:34pm
      Sep 29, 2019
      		 here’s the location just past skid road ascent as per previous post.
      Sep 29, 2019 @ 5:46pm
      Sep 29, 2019
      		 Large tree trunk has fallen across trail, somewhere between top of Skid road ascent and Dreamweaver, I forget exact location.
      Sep 12, 2019 @ 2:22pm
      Sep 12, 2019
      		 Big shout out to the DNV for creating a mandatory dismount in the middle of this trail! Blocking the old ride around was completely unnecessary,...
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      Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

      Past Week
      • 0 rides
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      6 Months
      • 14 rides
      • 22 miles avg distance
      All
      • 76 rides
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      Photos

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      Jul 2, 2019 @ 10:45pm
      Jul 2, 2019
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      Feb 15, 2019 @ 6:48pm
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      Feb 15, 2019 @ 6:47pm
      Feb 15, 2019
      365 |
      May 16, 2014 @ 7:12am
      May 16, 2014

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      Trail Products

      9 Reviews & Comments

      • + 1
      flag Ledski (Aug 16, 2017 at 19:30)
       Much harder than expected and quite challenging to ride east to west. Quite technical.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      flag konarider112 (Mar 16, 2018 at 20:55)
       This is the hardest blue trail I’ve ever ridden. Especially east to west; I had to push my bike.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      flag KevinStafford (Apr 4, 2018 at 6:27)
       Yeah, that was the blackest blue I've ever ridden. However, I had a great time rolling those steps and re enforced stone descents back to parking. Great trail in its own right.
      [Reply]
      • + 0
      flag JacksonThack (Jul 30, 2018 at 8:56)
       This trail is exceptionally technical with massive uphill rock gardens, steep stairs, and not much fun for me as an intermediate rider
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      flag Edu888 (Jan 27, 2019 at 16:16)
       Took the trail to go back to the parking lot after Espresso and I can safely say that this trail is significantly harder. Super steep rocky climbs lead to super steep rocky descents. The descents are really fun though.
      [Reply]
      • + 2
      flag andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:44)
       This is NOT a blue trail; it should be marked as black diamond. I ride blue trails almost exclusively with couple black ones thrown in, and this one is by far the hardest I've done. There are some "black" trail in Squamish and Seymour that are easier than this one.
      [Reply]
      • + 2
      flag andreyapopov (Mar 28, 2019 at 13:48)
       In fact, Expresso - black rated trail - is much easier than this one.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      flag JemSamonte (May 7, 2019 at 21:16)
       Rode this trail after trying Expresso the 2nd time. Was very technical for me but was really fun. Walked most of the uphill part and some sketchy descent. You just have to be mindful since a lot of hikers are on this trail as well. Will definitely try again this weekend after pipeline or expresso.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      flag B-Rough (Aug 16, 2019 at 20:46)
       Similar to many of the comments above I took this trail as a connector from Expresso. This trail did surprise me as due to the rock paths they have created (I think for hikers) it is actually pretty challenging, definitely harder than Expresso in my view.
      [Reply]

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