1,011 ft
Distance
30 ft
Climb
-216 ft
Descent
00:02:45
Avg time
Trail Supporters, Builders & Maintainers of Big Stupid Trail
  • Digger
    Builder

Big Stupid Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
  • Riding Area
    Mount Fromme
    North Vancouver, British Columbia
  • AKA
    Upper Skull
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    DH, AM
  • Trail Usage
    Biking Only
  • Direction
    Downhill Only
    Popular direction shown
  • Season
    Year round
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • TTFs on Trail
    Bridge, Drop, Jump
  • Ride in Rain
    Yes
  • Global Ranking
    #346 in Mountain Biking
  • Local Popularity
    75 in Mountain Biking
  • Land Manager
    District of North Vancouver

After the hill on lower ladies there is a fork in the trail, Big Stupid is the right trail. The Big Stupid came into existence as an alternate route from that point where the trail forks, possibly because the option on the left—the continuation of Ladies down to the Baden-Powell and Lower Ladies—is steeper and more technical than the line on the right, but also because of the draw of the namesake of the newly-revamped trail: a massive exposed rock face with numerous lines—one of those being Big Stupid. You'll find a couple of natural kickers built into small doubles and a new ladder bridge drop.

Local Trail Association
More Stats for Big Stupid bike trail
  • Altitude change
    -186 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,336 ft
  • Altitude max
    1,522 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,522 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,336 ft
  • Grade
    -18.432%
  • Grade max
    -35.966%
  • Grade min
    22.846%
  • Distance climb
    177 ft
  • Distance down
    834 ft
  • Avg time
    00:02:45
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Status:
on Oct 1, 2019
Variable
Avg: 4.5 (29 votes)

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Trail Conditions
  • Unknown
  • Snow Groomed
  • Snow Packed
  • Snow Covered
  • Freeze/thaw Cycle
  • Icy
  • Prevalent Mud
  • Wet
  • Variable
  • Ideal
  • Dry
  • Very Dry
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  • Downhill Primary
  • Both Directions
  • Uphill Primary
  • Uphill Only
  • One Direction
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Trail Difficulties
  • Access Road/Trail
  • White
  • Green
  • Blue
  • Black
  • Double Black Diamond

Trail Report Status
  • Clear / Green
  • Minor Issue / Yellow
  • Significant Issue / Amber
  • Closed

  • Land Owner Overlay
  • Wilderness (typically no bikes in USA)
  • BLM (public)
  • USFS (Wildlife sanctuaries darker than usfs)
  • State land
  • Indigenous
  • Military
Trail Conditions
  • Unknown
  • Snow Groomed
  • Snow Packed
  • Snow Covered
  • Freeze/thaw Cycle
  • Icy
  • Prevalent Mud
  • Wet
  • Variable
  • Ideal
  • Dry
  • Very Dry
  • Map Markers
  • trail Trail Head
  • photo Photo
  • place Directory Listing
  • region Riding Area
  • TTF TTF
  • Parking Parking
  • Viewpoint Viewpoint
  • Information Information
  • Warning Warning
  • Directions Directions
  • Sight Sight
  • Restrooms Restrooms
  • eBike Charging Point eBike Charging Point
  • Water Fountain/Source Water Fountain/Source
  • Gate Gate
  • Trail Sign Trail Sign
  • Table or Bench Table or Bench
  • Ladder Ladder
  • Stairs Stairs
  • Bridge Bridge
  • Camping Camping
  • Cabin Cabin
  • Lodge Lodge
  • Bear Cache Bear Cache
  • Dock Dock
  • Ranger Station Ranger Station
  • Summit Summit
  • Other Other
      Directions to big-stupid trailhead (49.353889, -123.043528)
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      Big Stupid Trail Reports

      statusdatedescription
      Oct 1, 2019 @ 8:40pm
      Oct 1, 2019
      reporter Very fun
      Sep 27, 2019 @ 12:16pm
      Sep 27, 2019
      reporter Tree has been cleared.
      Sep 26, 2019 @ 8:30am
      Sep 26, 2019
      Tree down
      Sep 25, 2019 @ 11:37am
      Sep 25, 2019
      Tree down on big stupid.
      Sep 2, 2019 @ 3:44pm
      Sep 2, 2019
      view all reports »

      Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

      Past Week
      • 3 rides
      • 7 miles avg distance
      6 Months
      • 422 rides
      • 10 miles avg distance
      All
      • 1,344 rides
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      Photos

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      Nov 4, 2019 @ 6:54am
      Nov 4, 2019
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      Nov 4, 2019 @ 6:54am
      Nov 4, 2019
      359 |
      Feb 20, 2018 @ 10:23pm
      Feb 20, 2018
      721 |
      Feb 8, 2015 @ 10:04pm
      Feb 8, 2015

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      1 Review & Comments

      • + 1
      flag bboyshredder (Jul 16, 2019 at 8:32)
       The big stupid starts of flow'y then you get to a huge drop , that's why they call it big stupid. And there's also a very hard off camber rock face . This is one of the hardest black Dimond trails on Fromme .
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