2.4 miles

Distance

-1,819 ft

Descent

00:26:47

Avg time

Canyon Creek DH Details

Activities
- Mountain Bike
Riding Area

Raging River State Forest
Snoqualmie, Washington
AKA

CCDH
Difficulty Rating

Blue rate
Voted Difficulty

Black Diamond (24 votes)
Trail Type

Singletrack
Bike Type

DH, AM
Direction

Downhill Only
Popular direction shown
Physical Rating

Hard
Trail Visibility

Always easy to follow
Dogs Allowed

Yes
eBike Allowed

No
TTFs on Trail

Berm, Drop, Jump, Rock Face
Local Popularity

85 in Mountain Biking
Year Opened

2020
Land Manager

Washington State DNR

Canyon Creek Downhill Trail (or CCDH) is a descending-only, formidable technical trail that feels closer to a black, than a blue rated trail. This bold creation is unquestionably difficult. Let's be clear, if you struggle with the steeper black trails of adjacent Tiger mountain, you may be very challenged by CCDH's rough and rooty character.

CCDH features challenging root sections, carefully not-removed natural rocks, and just enough descending angle to keep you on your toes. In contrast to the blue-rated "flow" trails like Poppin' Tops, many riders will find CCDH more challenging. Some refer to it as "Dark-blue". Combine CCDH & Raging Tiger climb out with No Service & Return Policy for the brand new defacto "Raging 8" figure eight route

Canyon Creek downhill trail is brought to you thanks to the Washington State DNR & the hard work of Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance.

Access Info

Access from the Raging Ridge Trail

Disclaimer

Pads and proper safety equipment highly recommended! You are miles from help. Ride wisely.

Local Trail Association

Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance
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Traditionally Indigenous Territory

Coast Salish

More Stats for Canyon Creek DH mountain bike trail trail

Altitude change

-1,819 ft
Altitude min

1,312 ft
Altitude max

3,131 ft
Altitude start

3,131 ft
Altitude end

1,312 ft
Grade

-14.2%
Grade max

-49.4%
Grade min

-0.6%
Distance down

2 miles
Distance flat

233 ft
Avg time

00:26:47
Avg reverse time

00:53:30
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Status:

on Jul 23, 2021

Dry

Avg: 4.7 (26 votes)

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Canyon Creek DH Trail Reports

status	date	description
	Jul 23, 2021 @ 7:09pm Jul 23, 2021
	Jul 23, 2021 @ 7:08pm Jul 23, 2021
	Jul 14, 2021 @ 2:02pm Jul 14, 2021	So good! There are some dust holes in the upper sections, but it is so rooty that it almost makes it more fun. Down at the bottom the dry trail is...
	Jul 10, 2021 @ 4:11pm Jul 10, 2021
	Jul 10, 2021 @ 1:28pm Jul 10, 2021	Most of the trail is in good condition except in the downhill pointing chutes, and some of the more technical sections where it is pretty dry and...

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Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

Past Week

47 rides
15 miles avg distance

6 Months

1,028 rides
15 miles avg distance

All

958 rides

Photos

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Routes with this trail

title	rating	distance
Raging Loop		13 miles
Canyon Creek DH Loop		13 miles
Raging 8: No Service & CCDH		21 miles
Sturdy Dirty Photo Challenge Course		13 miles

26 Reviews & Comments

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natck (Aug 1, 2020 at 20:13)

Awesome trail, like a longer, faster version of No Service (plus fun optional small boulder drop). Thanks for the new build and nice return via Raging Tiger. One of my new favorites in Raging.

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Jsaper (Aug 9, 2020 at 22:13)

I found it refreshing to ride this steep rooty rough cut trail, stark contrast to berms, flow, and jumps of Popin’ Tops and Flow state. I too found it to be more of a “dark blue” of which some people won’t appreciate the rooty stuff especially on on wet day. Lower 1/4 of trail is a bit smoother. Thanks Evergreen for continuing to build great new trails!????

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jimmyvincent (Aug 15, 2020 at 17:24)

I’m stoked on this trail. It’s old school. It rides pretty fast, but it’s technical enough to keep you guessing and stay nimble. Nice long descent. Thanks for opening it up!

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Droooper

(Aug 25, 2020 at 0:42)

Call a spade a spade. This is obviously a trail for experts and should have a black diamond rating. The promotion of this trail as a "spicy" blue intermediate trail is negligent and dangerous. The level of skill required to stay on the bike when it is a wet greasy rooty mess (which is most of the time) is far beyond a typical intermediate rider's ability. Combine this with Evergreen's promotion of this trail as a learning opportunity for intermediate and even beginning riders on such a narrow and densely forested trail is a recipe for disaster. Come on Evergreen, the mountain bike community is relying on you to rate trails appropriately so that each RIDER can decide when to advance and try something more challenging. Beginning and intermediate riders should be able to choose the right trails for their ability and progress in a safe manner based on accurate ratings rather than being tricked into riding something that is beyond their ability. It is a shame that more attention wasn't paid to making this a true blue trail as the distance and elevation gain would be a natural fit for many intermediate riders and allow them to avoid descending on the two way trail. Perhaps this was the original intent? If so, maybe it is time to take a hard look at what this trail really is and give it the black trail designation that it obviously deserves rather than making excuses and adding adjectives to its blue rating.

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bCloud09c

(Aug 31, 2020 at 13:35)

I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm one of those "newer" mountain bike riders (CAT 3 roadie for 10 years) and I ventured out to CCDH this weekend expecting some blue tech to learn on. I rock the front side all day long (Popin' Tops included) with ease, and I was in over my head on CCDH. Thank God the conditions were perfect, but I still endo'd. Thankfully I landed in soft stuff and didn't even get so much as a bruise. But holy shit. Seriosly? With no bailout, and super duper tight tech, this trail is no doubt a black! Some day a true newbie is going to get on this when it's wet and get maimed or killed.

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andyjc0072

(Sep 3, 2020 at 10:12)

Agree with above comments. I went out on a day that would've been fine on the front side, but CCDH was a wet greasy mess. Would be much better dry. The soil seems to have very high clay content which probably contributes to this. This is clearly more of a black, IMO. Agree about risks to intermediate riders especially when there is no cell coverage this far out. I think it would be more appropriate to rate this as a Black.

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swartzie (Sep 30, 2020 at 12:16)

As a multiple day volunteer on this phenomenal trail the intent for this trial is coming to life daily. When ridden prior to being opened, she was a BLACK thru and thru. As tires work this in it's becoming more and more blue with every passing XC lycra speedster. What scale is being used to say that bikers on a "blue" cannot handle tight trails and slippery roots, shouldn't that be the next step above a buff and wide green trail and before mandatory drops and jumps? There is nothing, and I mean, NOTHING built on that trail that cannot be rolled over or very easily stepped off of a mountain bike for. Kudos to the visionaries on this one and I hope to see you on the dig days for upcoming trails or maintenance, maybe Evergreen will take your expert opinion into the design and building.

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AndreyNW (Oct 3, 2020 at 14:33)

I have to disagree. I rode it yesterday for the first time. The soil conditions were quite good but I started after sunset and could see only a few yards ahead illuminated by the front light. I would say it lived up to my expectations of "challenging intermediate downhill trail". I have been riding for three years and consider myself an intermediate rider, with downhill not being my strong suit .

As the other commenter said, everything is rollable and the grade is never so steep that you loose traction for more than a couple of feet. Would it be more challenging in wet conditions? I bet it would be but I have not seen a downhill trail that would not.
As a side point, to ride this trail you are committing to a route of at least 13 miles long and 2900 feet of elevation. This by itself will filter out a lot of beginners.

Let's also keep in mind that up-rating a trail has a downside too, many intermediate riders may hold back on riding a black rated trail. I definitely would.

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lalligagger (Sep 7, 2020 at 17:07)

Great trail for developing intermediates who can handle some tech at moderate grades. My girlfriend loves it.
PS - There are multiple bail-out options including one after the first ~1/4 mile. As always at RR, know where you are going and ride within your limits. Evergreen is a world-class trail building org, not your mom.

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skfl (Oct 25, 2020 at 23:14)

You may think this is a black if you haven’t ridden on no service. Trail ratings are a relative difficulty. No matter though this trail is amazing and you should ride it.

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Alspins (Oct 27, 2020 at 16:30)

This is probably only missing the black designation due to grade. This trail is not as difficult as No service or as steep as PT. My opinion is that Raging River needs to be a green: low consequence, wide smooth trail, minimal features. CCDH is not at the same skill level. Enjoy and ride safe! Great trail, thanks evergreen!

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jakemannix (Dec 4, 2020 at 22:57)

Newb’s review (I’ve been riding for about 4 months now, but have [slowly] tried almost all of the single black diamonds in the area by now): I rode this for the first time today, on the same day I rode No Service my first time. Totally flipped both myself and my bike 360 somersault on No Service, but handled CCDH fine: it’s very physical, and requires you really be on your toes for those roots and small-medium rocks/drops!

That having been said: this trail is harder for me than OTG on Tiger, Crazy Ivan at Tokul, and *way* harder than Upper Poppin Tops here at Raging. All three of those are black diamonds. They’re not particularly super hard black diamonds, but does it make sense to have a blue trail be rated harder than three nearby blacks?

To solve this, I’d break the trail in two: the upper rooty steep section should be “Upper CCDH”, a black diamond, and the lower half, where it’s not quite so steep, tends to be drier, and more flowy, is “Lower CCDH” and is blue. Then suggest less experienced / more cautious folk take the forest service roads over from Stans to get to the lower. Or add a new downhill linking to it that is truly in line with blues like Joyride (which also isn’t “easy” either, and is pretty rooty / rowdy / twisty).

Just this newb’s $0.02

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seattlesbest

(Dec 6, 2020 at 8:25)

Took my girlfriend down this thinking it was a blue and she crashed hard! Glad I didn't have to take her to the hospital. Definitely not a blue!

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IndianapolisJones (Jan 11, 2021 at 19:02)

First off, CCDH is really, really fun and Evergreen did an amazing job building it.

Secondly, I've ridden CCDH a few times now (right after it opened when it was very raw, then a month later, and finally a few days ago), and it was and still is a blue. A more difficult blue, but a blue nonetheless. Part of the problem, in my opinion, is that Upper Poppin Tops is rated black (really should be blue), so people go and ride that and think CCDH will be easier.

Anyone who thinks this is a black hasn't ridden PT and No Service (or some of the "other" trails here), which are both more technical and steeper. This is a great stepping stone for intermediate riders to improve their technical riding, because you can't improve unless you challenge yourself and get out of your comfort zone sometimes.

Like one poster said above, Evergreen is not your mom. If you drop into this trail and find yourself in over your head, bail out at the road or walk it. If you want someone to hold your hand while you mountain bike, you should think about finding a different hobby.

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shaggedelic

(Jan 22, 2021 at 18:08)

It’s just right on the cusp between a black and a blue. Doesn’t quite have the bigger root drops like No Service or NOTG, but still have to maintain focus especially when the roots are frozen!

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Nathan61qy8j (Feb 9, 2021 at 22:24)

Looks like the pandemic bike surge has brought some trail rating experts. Anyone who can read and do basic research can tell if the trail is too hard for them or not. Trail ratings are relative and should be used as a guide a long side other means like actually talking to people who’ve ridden the trail. No need to be shy!

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photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:05)

Really fun trail that will challenge you to find flow in the technical sections. When dry it's fast and you can find some good speed. Wet it's totally fine as all the braking tends to be in straight lines and there's not much off-camber root braking, just keep your front braking light and it's pretty easy.

For the rating, this is a tech trail, not a flow trail, so the blue rating is appropriate for the area. It's a great piece of trailbuilding to make a true tech trail that's still intermediate, well done Evergreen!

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Serb1

(Mar 26, 2021 at 8:18)

I rode this on my hardtail and had a blast. I rode this a few months ago, and at the time, I would call myself a late intermediate rider, experimenting with OTG, but feeling “in over my head,” on NOTG and EBAD. Upon hearing that this was a “spicy blue,” I was interested in riding it to progress my riding to feel comfortable on the black tech trails of tiger mtn. I was fully prepared to be “in over my head,” but I wasn’t. It was challenging but I found it to be easier than the tiger mtn black trails. Do your research before you ride, be prepared for the trail, and if you freak out, you can still walk, or just... ride slow. Grow up people

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hartdds (May 24, 2021 at 7:56)

Super sloppy, muddy, and not fun today...I’m gonna wait quite a while for it to dry out.....

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canned-slammin (May 24, 2021 at 7:56)

Amazing trail. Really well built - every time I thought I was in over my head there was a nice mellow section to prepare for the next feature. Definitely a spicy blue. Everything is low consequence and there's no mandatory drops or gaps. And the rock roll is super fun!

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nofunstravaguy

(May 29, 2021 at 16:08)

Awesome! A hard blue. Techy with roots. Retains moisture.

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maverickalo

(Jul 22, 2021 at 23:31)

Favorite Trail so far. Def a spicy blue. Super fun tho.

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Hans-California (Jul 31, 2021 at 15:06)

Rode it today for first time, I went pretty slow since I did not know what to expect. As someone said it is all rollable but is a physically de.anding trail. I really liked it, would rate it a blue, a dark blue.

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mtb4meee (3 days ago)

Lol, all these people complaining about the grade. Solid blue. Amazing trail, very physical and long. Part of learning to mountain bike is pushing yourself to do things that are uncomfortable to learn your limits. Just because you (or your girlfriend) hit your limits doesn’t mean this trail is a black. Kudos to the builders, this trail is .

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backinmysaddle (16 hours ago)

Roots and rocks , geez, kinda like beer in the PacNW, just add more hops. Evergreen builds for the brahs and trail builders and has completely lost touch with the fact that this is a sport that should attract a much wider range of people. I’m sick of the rinse and repeat nature of the trails that evergreen builds. I have a house jn another state at the edge of rival trail head. The world has moved beyond just roots and rocks folks. There are blue flow trails with tall berms, intermixed with bench cut straightaways with kickers. What fun and so great to get get newer riders young and old alike upping their skills. I’d urge those with negative comments to make them heard by Evergreen, include a note with your donations this year. Tiger and Raging have plenty of roots and rocks, show us you can buikd some world class flow.

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