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3,148 ft

Distance

-633 ft

Descent

00:19:31

Avg time

Pink Starfish Details

Activities
- Mountain Bike
- Hike
- Trail Running
Riding Area

Mount Fromme
North Vancouver, British Columbia
Difficulty Rating

Double Black Diamond rate
Trail Type

Singletrack
Bike Type

DH
Trail Usage

Biking Primary
Direction

Downhill Primary
Popular direction shown
Dogs Allowed

Yes
TTFs on Trail

Drop, Jump, Skinny
Local Popularity
5 in Mountain Biking [+]
- 5 in Trail Running
- 5 in Hiking
Land Manager

Grouse (first 30m distance) & DNV

Contains mandatory jumps with ride-arounds. Classic whiplash inducing drop to flat terrain. Not for beginner riders.

Some history: Starfish was built by Dave Moody in the mid 90s. It was built with all the skinnies, features and the Ogopogo log in super creative fashion by Dave through the North Shore Pathways Society.

Access Info

Acessed off Mountain Hwy exiting on the Baden Powell at Abelard Canyon.

Disclaimer

marking trail as closed

More Stats for Pink Starfish bike trail

Altitude change

-633 ft
Altitude min

1,562 ft
Altitude max

2,195 ft
Altitude start

2,195 ft
Altitude end

1,562 ft
Grade

-20.114%
Grade max

-61.419%
Grade min

-1.147%
Distance down

3,106 ft
Distance flat

42 ft
Avg time

00:19:31
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Status:

on Nov 23, 2016

Avg: 4.1 (12 votes)

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Pink Starfish Trail Reports

status	date	description
	Nov 23, 2016 @ 10:00am Nov 23, 2016	Notice from District of North Vancouver, Tuesday, Nov 22, 2016 http://bit.ly/2frSsoT Pink Starfish Trail on Fromme Mountain has been...
	Aug 2, 2016 @ 3:04pm Aug 2, 2016	26/07/2016 – Pink Starfish Update ointly, the District of North Vancouver (DNV) and the North Shore Mountain Bike Association (NSMBA) would...
	Aug 1, 2016 @ 12:07pm Aug 1, 2016	Trail is still open and rideable. Some of the new woodwork that was decommissioned is on the trail itself so you'll have to walk around it. ...
	Jul 23, 2016 @ 10:16am Jul 23, 2016	Decommissioned/Closed by DNV Parks
	Jul 23, 2016 @ 8:27am Jul 23, 2016	New and old wood work removed, trail almost not rideable,

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9 Reviews & Comments

Score Time

+ 11

T-ROB (Jul 20, 2016 at 21:41)

I for one have had enough of the systemic and purposeful destruction of freeride by selective decommissioning of our trails. I have had enough of the cross country dad mandate on fromme. The nsmba and the dnv are only promoting enduro and throwing downhillers and freeriders under the bus.

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T-ROB (Jul 20, 2016 at 21:56)

Have a look at this trail map from 03 and see which trails have been adopted and which been closed www.mobilemaplets.com/showplace/9936

Upper oil can, boundary and digger are clearly at risk with high difficulty and no listed trail sponsor

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leelau Plus (Jul 21, 2016 at 10:41)

UOC is adopted by some trailbuilders. DL and others rebuilt the woodwork in very good fashion. He told me he even took pics of the old stunts before so he could match the shape and feel when he rebuilt.

Boundary is being actively worked on by KG and is also running really well

Not sure what the status is of Digger.

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oesk1 (Jul 20, 2016 at 22:17)

I was just looking at this the other day and it was open . will go ride it tommorw

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leelau Plus (Jul 23, 2016 at 19:15)

July 23, 2016 update by NSMBA that Pink Starfish was closed by DNV Parks in Trail Reports.

PS was open till last week. Did Patrick Podolski building his unauthorized structures and publicizing them via his Golden Dirt Trails instagram cause DNV's actions? Or was it because the NSMBA violated the terms of its permit on PS that caused DNV to take action? Or did the NSMBA not have a permit for PS?

What does it mean that PS is now closed? Will PS now not be rideable?

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leelau Plus (Jul 31, 2016 at 21:44)

Just a quick note as NSMBA has posted a trail update on June 26

nsmba.ca/content/2016-07_26072016-%E2%80%93-pink-starfish-update

From the NSMBA ----

"Jointly, the District of North Vancouver (DNV) and the North Shore Mountain Bike Association (NSMBA) would like to advise the public of a temporary moratorium on trail work having been placed on Pink Starfish.
The status of the trail will be re-evaluated this fall. In the interim, old structures have been removed by the land manager and decking on new structures has been removed by the NSMBA. The NSMBA continues to comply with all Land Manager procedures regarding permitting and trail work.

To inform the ridership of these changes, the status of Pink Starfish has been updated to closed on Trailforks.

If you have any questions, please email the NSMBA at info@nsmba.ca."

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leelau Plus (Jul 31, 2016 at 21:51)

I checked with the DNV and what they say and what the NSMBA has to say has quite a few variations.

First, DNV didn't ask for Starfish to be closed. NSMBA marked Starfish as closed/decommissioned. DNV said I should ask NSMBA why they are closing trails

Second, DNV is checking its own records to see if there was a recent permit issued to build new structures on Pink Starfish. They indicated that building new structures on Starfish would be against their policy so they would not currently issue such a permit

So I've emailed the NSMBA to find out if they have a permit to do work on Starfish or whether the work was unsanctioned.

I've also emailed them to ask them why they closed Starfish and if so, what that means. Ie no-one is allowed to ride it? Their statement that closing Starfish on Trailforks is to warn us makes no sense. They could easily have flagged the work they're taking apart if they just wanted to warn people. Also, DNV didn't want the trail closed; the NSMBA closed the trail.

I've also asked the NSMBA if they've planned to close other trails. I'll update if there's more info

No reply back as of July 31st

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slablover (Aug 2, 2016 at 16:04)

Hey Lee, I talked to some representatives of the NSMBA at their open house on Fromme a couple weeks ago and they showed me the permits for the work on Pink Starfish. The permits were rescinded by DNV after the structures had already been built due to several factors. PM me if you want any more details! Cheers.

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Sharonb (Dec 9, 2016 at 19:44)

First of all I would like to congratulate the new Directors on the NSMBA board. I hope that this will issue in a new era of transparency.

Specifically we asked to see the permit for Pink Starfish. That request was denied.

We could have just been directed to the minutes that were posted on the NSMBA website instead of just being given the run around.

I post this for clarity.

Based on the April 2016 NSMBA Minutes that can be found here:
nsmba.ca/content/2016-03_2016-meeting-minutes.

Here is the statement regarding Pink Starfish by the NSMBA.

Specifically:
"Pink Starfish has a permit for remediation work only, we can not proceed to a full rebuild with our
current permit. The remediation work is being done discretely, this is necessary to move the project
to phase II. This is at the request of the Land Manager."

So, it seems that remediation work was allowed, but not the building of new structures.

So who justified the building of new structures on this trail? Its pretty clear the DNV didn't want new structures to be built as stated.

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