3.1 miles
Distance
7 ft
Climb
-1,213 ft
Descent
00:20:28
Avg time

Poorman's Downhill Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Flume Trail System
    Wilmington, New York
  • AKA
    PMD
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Direction
    Downhill Primary
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  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
  • Global Ranking
    #60165 in Mountain Biking
  • Local Popularity
    55 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 65 in Trail Running
    • 5 in Hiking
  • Year Opened
    2009
  • Land Owner
    New York State Department of Environmental Conservation

The "PMD" was originally built as a snowmobile trail to connect Wilmington with points North, but it's proven to be much more popular with bikers who regularly shuttle the trail from the parking area near the intersection of the Whiteface toll road and Gillespie drive. It serves as a backbone for several rides that radiate off of it. It was originally named for the cash-strapped riders who couldn't pay for chairlifts at Whiteface, and also for the fact that there is a good chance you'll be buying some new bike parts if you make a habit of blasting down it too often. It has the unique distinction of having a bar and restaurant in town named after it, and the town of Wilmington honors it's legacy by offering dirt cheap shuttle rides for bikers once or twice a month during the summer. Check out betatrails.org for details.

Disclaimer

While most of PMD is on state Forest Preserve lands, the bottom 3/4 mile and the parking area is on private lands. Please stay on the trail, leash pets and respect private property.

Local Trail Association
Traditionally Indigenous Territory
More Stats for Poorman's Downhill mountain bike trail trail
  • Altitude change
    -1,206 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,029 ft
  • Altitude max
    2,236 ft
  • Altitude start
    2,236 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,030 ft
  • Grade
    -7.3%
  • Grade max
    -28.8%
  • Grade min
    6%
  • Distance climb
    338 ft
  • Distance down
    3 miles
  • Distance flat
    210 ft
  • Avg time
    00:20:28
  • Avg reverse time
    00:46:38
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on Sep 16, 2022
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      Poorman's Downhill Trail Reports

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      Sep 16, 2022 @ 2:53pm
      Sep 16, 2022
      There is a tree across trail about chest high shortly after crossing marble mountain road
      Jul 25, 2022 @ 8:51am
      Jul 25, 2022
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      May 18, 2022 @ 11:21pm
      May 18, 2022
      Quite muddy on the bottom section below the bridges, steer clear at the moment.
      Mar 18, 2022 @ 10:43am
      Mar 18, 2022
      reporter During the spring, even the most sustainable trails with well-drained soils are vulnerable to damage caused by bike tires and boot soles. Riding,...
      Aug 29, 2021 @ 11:30am
      Aug 29, 2021
      Some large mudholes especially near the first bridges, will get your tires covered in mud so be careful negotiating the obstacles immediately...
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      Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

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      • 62 rides
      • 16 miles avg distance
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      • 319 rides
      • Last: Sep 17, 2022

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      4 Reviews & Comments

      • + 1
      logansteege (Jul 17, 2022 at 6:20)
      As always, everything comes with you’re own relative perspective. But if you like to shuttle super fast, techy, but not too dangerous downhill trails, this trail is for you, it’s such a ripping wild and fun ride, especially if you catch the weekend shuttle! There is plenty of more xc style add ins that are also fun and worth doing. One of the better trails in NY that I’ve found… and there aren’t too many noteworthy trail systems in this state.
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      • + 0
      NYDC (Aug 10, 2021 at 7:10)
      Fun trail, very bumpy. Some muddy spots still, wooden bridges are very slippery.
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      • - 1
      wgwestervelt (Aug 23, 2019 at 17:02)
      This trail is not particularly interesting up or down. It’s essentially a baby head covered double track. Investigate the new stuff being added adjacent to it instead.
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      • + 0
      francoisjmj (Jul 18, 2019 at 13:20)
      Amazing trail, very bumpy ride, todays ride was quite muddy in places, particularly up top. Beware of the mud holes, some are quite deep. Definitely recommend a good full suspension bike.
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      youtuber Trail Review - Poorman's Downhill
      1581 | Aug 25, 2017 , Wilmington
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