1.9 miles
Distance
38 ft
Climb
-876 ft
Descent
00:17:58
Avg time

Off The Grid Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Tiger Mountain
    Issaquah, Washington
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Voted Difficulty
    Black Diamond (11 votes)
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    DH, AM
  • Direction
    Downhill Primary
    Popular direction shown
  • Climb Difficulty
    Blue
  • Physical Rating
    Hard
  • Season
    3
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
  • TTFs on Trail
    Berm, Drop, Jump
  • Global Ranking
    #216 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #47283 in Trail Running
    • #44 in Hiking
  • Local Popularity
    80 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 35 in Trail Running
    • 50 in Hiking

A truly great trail. Catch the start by taking a right at the trail junction off the E. Tiger Summit trail after it crosses the summit road. Like the other new trails on Tiger, OTG has a bit of everything. It's mostly flowy, but also has its share of tech and gnar (roots and some short rocks gardens). This is a long descent, broken up by a punchy uphill section about a 3rd of the way down. For a descent, it's pretty aerobic. The rock gardens can be very greasy when wet, and thus can be difficult to ride cleanly then - especially the off-camber one. The upper trails at Tiger are not good to ride during or right after a rainstorm, as it does too much damage to the trail. Give 'em a rest until they dry out for a few days. OTG exits right at the top of Fully Rigid.

Local Trail Association
Traditionally Indigenous Territory
More Stats for Off The Grid mountain bike trail trail
  • Altitude change
    -837 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,980 ft
  • Altitude max
    2,817 ft
  • Altitude start
    2,817 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,982 ft
  • Grade
    -8.2%
  • Grade max
    -56%
  • Grade min
    14.3%
  • Distance climb
    673 ft
  • Distance down
    2 miles
  • Distance flat
    108 ft
  • Avg time
    00:17:58
  • Avg reverse time
    00:20:26
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Status:
on Nov 27, 2021
Prevalent Mud
Avg: 4.5 (93 votes)

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  • Snow Groomed
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  • Snow Cover Inadequate
  • Freeze/thaw Cycle
  • Icy
  • Prevalent Mud
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  • Variable
  • Ideal
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  • Very Dry
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      Off The Grid Trail Reports

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      Nov 27, 2021 @ 12:57pm
      Nov 27, 2021
      Lots of puddles; dirt is pretty slippery in places but overall still ridable
      Nov 24, 2021 @ 5:35pm
      Nov 24, 2021
      A bit slippery, wet and puddles but ridable.
      Nov 10, 2021 @ 12:54pm
      Nov 10, 2021
      Tree down lower otg
      Oct 23, 2021 @ 6:59pm
      Oct 23, 2021
      Mud puddles and slippery roots but trail is holding up nicely and is mostly drained.
      Oct 19, 2021 @ 10:52am
      Oct 19, 2021
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      Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

      Past Week
      • 18 rides
      • 13 miles avg distance
      6 Months
      • 1,266 rides
      • 13 miles avg distance
      All
      • 6,094 rides
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      19 Reviews & Comments

      • + 2
      boxxerace TRAILFORKS (Jul 24, 2015 at 23:11)
       What a fantastic trail! Wish it went all the way to the bottom.
      [Reply]
      • + 0
      jayacheess (Oct 17, 2015 at 10:20)
       This really is an amazing trail. I'd love to get down there again and ride the new Predator trail.

      My only concern with the Tiger mountain riding area is the difficulty ratings seem to be a bit inflated. This trail feels squarely like an Intermediate, and nothing that I saw from POV videos makes Predator look like a double black. But maybe that's a good thing if it keeps unprepared people off the trails? shrug
      [Reply]
      • + 0
      DBoop7 (Oct 13, 2017 at 20:50)
       Was really rainy today but was still a blast!! Lots of slippery rocks and roots though.
      [Reply]
      • + 3
      hi-dr-nick Reporter (Sep 11, 2018 at 14:21)
       Definitely not as hard as it sounds. More of a blue/black than a true black. With that said, super fun trail that keeps things interesting throughout its entirety.
      [Reply]
      • - 1
      moxieliberal (Mar 29, 2019 at 16:34)
       I would definitely say this is a black diamond. At least to me. Lots of obstacles. Lota of right switchbacks, rocks, roots, and drop offs. Lots of work. Fun but very challenging. Not a relaxing swooping downhill. If I were naming this trial: “relentles
      [Reply]
      • + 2
      dirtworship (May 17, 2019 at 22:51)
       Super fun descent, lots of flow but also lots of smashing over roots and rocks. Top notch trail, keeps you guessing with every turn.
      [Reply]
      • - 1
      jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:50)
       The top is fun and flowy, at the split I would recommend NOTG as a much more flowy and fun descent.
      The bottom part of Off The Grid has little flow and is to filled with switchbacks to flat sections.
      [Reply]
      • - 1
      Nwilkes (Jun 16, 2020 at 22:43)
       This is borderline XC. Black??
      [Reply]
      • + 2
      jdh (Feb 3, 2021 at 14:36)
       IMO it depends how fast you hit it. I can scare myself on this trail, or I can pick my way down. If I do the former, it's a black, esp. if I take all the side hits and try to air things. Anyone could poke their way down though, so that does make it more of a "dark" blue trail.
      [Reply]
      • + 2
      CaptainBLT (Aug 9, 2021 at 10:55)
       "Anyone could poke their way down" means it really shouldn't be black.

      Especially after the trail maintenance this year, there are no mandatory gaps or drops, there is no section where you can't come to a complete stop without issue, and the trail still works just fine if you aren't able to carry speed.

      Remy Metailler can find 40 foot gaps with sniper landings on blue trails in Whistler Bike Park, that doesn't make them pro lines.
      [Reply]
      • + 2
      TheRent8590 (Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56)
       This trail is loaded with obstacles, drops, off camber roots and rock gardens. There are several drops with tricky rock placement that could easily throw you off; intermediate riders may struggle conquering them all at first.
      No one cares if you think it’s a blue or black; this trail is wicked fun, just go and ride it!
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      adamweld (Sep 22, 2020 at 22:52)
       Absolutely one of the best trails in Washington.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      yman98 (Nov 29, 2020 at 12:02)
       Recent rework has improved the flow of the trail. Ironing out a few of the awkward sections.
      [Reply]
      • - 1
      shaggedelic (Jan 22, 2021 at 18:11)
       I dunno about this, so over hyped felt like a waste of time. I did NOTG first and won’t be doing OTG ever again.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:44)
       Pretty fun trail when it's dry, but holds moisture more than others so if it's wet I'd not bother. When it's dry and fast there's plenty of room for creativity if you maintain speed.
      [Reply]
      • + 0
      BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 21:57)
       Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
      [Reply]
      • + 0
      ebarnes1 (Jul 4, 2021 at 17:37)
       Honestly kind of confused about this trail. I get that they are trying to keep all the natural features such as roots, rocks, and drops but for how popular this trail is it needs way more work. Smooth out some of the flow sections, clean up the rock lines, and this trail would definitely be a 5/5
      [Reply]
      • + 0
      Ch1ck3nn (Oct 23, 2021 at 18:58)
       Trail is in good shape. Lots of fun. Just be ready to get muddy
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