1.9 miles

Distance

38 ft

Climb

-876 ft

Descent

00:16:13

Avg time

Off The Grid Details

Activities
- Mountain Bike
- Hike
- Trail Running
Riding Area

Tiger Mountain State Forest
Issaquah, Washington
Difficulty Rating

Black Diamond rate
Voted Difficulty

Blue (20 votes)
Trail Type

Singletrack
Bike Type

DH, AM
Direction

Downhill Primary
Popular direction shown
Climb Difficulty

Blue
Physical Rating

Hard
Season

3
Dogs Allowed

Yes
eBike Allowed

No
TTFs on Trail

Berm, Drop, Jump
Global Ranking
#216 in Mountain Biking [+]
- #47283 in Trail Running
- #44 in Hiking
Local Popularity
80 in Mountain Biking [+]
- 40 in Trail Running
- 35 in Hiking
Land Owner

Washington State DNR

A truly great trail. Catch the start by taking a right at the trail junction off the E. Tiger Summit trail after it crosses the summit road. Like the other new trails on Tiger, OTG has a bit of everything. It's mostly flowy, but also has its share of tech and gnar (roots and some short rocks gardens). This is a long descent, broken up by a punchy uphill section about a 3rd of the way down. For a descent, it's pretty aerobic. The rock gardens can be very greasy when wet, and thus can be difficult to ride cleanly then - especially the off-camber one. The upper trails at Tiger are not good to ride during or right after a rainstorm, as it does too much damage to the trail. Give 'em a rest until they dry out for a few days. OTG exits right at the top of Fully Rigid.

Local Trail Association

Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance
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Traditionally Indigenous Territory

Coast Salish

More Stats for Off The Grid mountain bike trail trail

Altitude change

-837 ft
Altitude min

1,980 ft
Altitude max

2,817 ft
Altitude start

2,817 ft
Altitude end

1,982 ft
Grade

-8.2%
Grade max

-56%
Grade min

14.3%
Distance climb

673 ft
Distance down

2 miles
Distance flat

108 ft
Avg time

00:16:13
Avg reverse time

00:17:01
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Status:

on Mar 26, 2023

Snow Covered

Avg: 4.5 (101 votes)

Your vote: 0

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Off The Grid Trail Reports

status	date	description
	Mar 26, 2023 @ 1:46pm 22 hours	Had fresh tracks. Too much snow but surprisingly rideable if you don’t mind pedaling top to bottom ☹️. Not worth it.
	Mar 23, 2023 @ 7:11pm Mar 23, 2023	Dropped in at top of QuickLink. Minor dusting of wet slushy snow. Trail was wet but great. Some puddles but not too bad.
	Mar 19, 2023 @ 8:32am Mar 19, 2023	I dropped in from NOTG. From that crossing to about a 3/4 of the entire distance (about 1.4 miles from top) it is snow covered. Had to push it...
	Feb 11, 2023 @ 9:28pm Feb 11, 2023
	Feb 4, 2023 @ 2:51pm Feb 4, 2023	Hero dirt. No snow or puddles. Just smiles.

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Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

Past Week

0 rides

6 Months

322 rides
13 miles avg distance

All

9,670 rides
Last: Feb 12, 2023

Technical Trail Features (TTF)

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Trail Lists

Tiger OTG LOOP
7 trails

Routes with this trail

title	distance
OTG to Ebad and out	10 miles
Tiger: The Milk Run	10 miles
Tiger: Summit+Predator Figure 8 Power Loop	10 miles
Tiger: Big Burly Hat Trick	21 miles

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21 Reviews & Comments

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Slugjockey

(Jan 31, 2023 at 21:17)

If you are an advanced to expert rider, and can handle any level of trail, I don’t GAF if you think this is XC, or blue, or even green. Trail ratings are only tangentially there for you. For example, Olallie is green, but it’s also a blue if you’re going faster than 20mph which is easily achievable. The PRIMARY reason trail ratings exist is so that people who do not have the skills to ride a particular trail, don’t. The last thing you want is low intermediate rider deciding to ride a trail based on rating, and having a terrible experience, or worse, a bad digger. We get it. You’re a badass. Nobody cares. But an intermediate rider is not going to have fun on this trail, or get hurt. It’s balack for them.

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cheekio

(Sep 1, 2022 at 14:56)

For me, I also found this trail to be more blue-ish, similar to Chipmunk Rebellion in Whistler. However, I did ride it in excellent and very dry conditions. It has enough tech features to earn its black rating, if you hit them fast and high and in the wet. Regardless, it’s super fun!

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Ch1ck3nn

(Oct 23, 2021 at 18:58)

Trail is in good shape. Lots of fun. Just be ready to get muddy

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ebarnes1

(Jul 4, 2021 at 17:37)

Honestly kind of confused about this trail. I get that they are trying to keep all the natural features such as roots, rocks, and drops but for how popular this trail is it needs way more work. Smooth out some of the flow sections, clean up the rock lines, and this trail would definitely be a 5/5

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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 21:57)

Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.

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photodog

(Feb 16, 2021 at 8:44)

Pretty fun trail when it's dry, but holds moisture more than others so if it's wet I'd not bother. When it's dry and fast there's plenty of room for creativity if you maintain speed.

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shaggedelic (Jan 22, 2021 at 18:11)

I dunno about this, so over hyped felt like a waste of time. I did NOTG first and won’t be doing OTG ever again.

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yman98

(Nov 29, 2020 at 12:02)

Recent rework has improved the flow of the trail. Ironing out a few of the awkward sections.

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adamweld

(Sep 22, 2020 at 22:52)

Absolutely one of the best trails in Washington.

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TheRent8590

(Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56)

This trail is loaded with obstacles, drops, off camber roots and rock gardens. There are several drops with tricky rock placement that could easily throw you off; intermediate riders may struggle conquering them all at first.
No one cares if you think it’s a blue or black; this trail is wicked fun, just go and ride it!

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Nwilkes (Jun 16, 2020 at 22:43)

This is borderline XC. Black??

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jdh

(Feb 3, 2021 at 14:36)

IMO it depends how fast you hit it. I can scare myself on this trail, or I can pick my way down. If I do the former, it's a black, esp. if I take all the side hits and try to air things. Anyone could poke their way down though, so that does make it more of a "dark" blue trail.

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CaptainBLT

(Aug 9, 2021 at 10:55)

"Anyone could poke their way down" means it really shouldn't be black.

Especially after the trail maintenance this year, there are no mandatory gaps or drops, there is no section where you can't come to a complete stop without issue, and the trail still works just fine if you aren't able to carry speed.

Remy Metailler can find 40 foot gaps with sniper landings on blue trails in Whistler Bike Park, that doesn't make them pro lines.

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jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:50)

The top is fun and flowy, at the split I would recommend NOTG as a much more flowy and fun descent.
The bottom part of Off The Grid has little flow and is to filled with switchbacks to flat sections.

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dirtworship

(May 17, 2019 at 22:51)

Super fun descent, lots of flow but also lots of smashing over roots and rocks. Top notch trail, keeps you guessing with every turn.

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marebearrr

(Mar 29, 2019 at 16:34)

I would definitely say this is a black diamond. At least to me. Lots of obstacles. Lota of right switchbacks, rocks, roots, and drop offs. Lots of work. Fun but very challenging. Not a relaxing swooping downhill. If I were naming this trial: “relentles

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hi-dr-nick

Reporter (Sep 11, 2018 at 14:21)

Definitely not as hard as it sounds. More of a blue/black than a true black. With that said, super fun trail that keeps things interesting throughout its entirety.

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DBoop7 (Oct 13, 2017 at 20:50)

Was really rainy today but was still a blast!! Lots of slippery rocks and roots though.

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jayacheess

(Oct 17, 2015 at 10:20)

This really is an amazing trail. I'd love to get down there again and ride the new Predator trail.

My only concern with the Tiger mountain riding area is the difficulty ratings seem to be a bit inflated. This trail feels squarely like an Intermediate, and nothing that I saw from POV videos makes Predator look like a double black. But maybe that's a good thing if it keeps unprepared people off the trails? shrug

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