1.9 miles
38 ft
-876 ft
Avg time

Off The Grid Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Tiger Mountain State Forest
    Issaquah, Washington
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Voted Difficulty
    Blue (20 votes)
  • Trail Type
  • Bike Type
    DH, AM
  • Direction
    Downhill Primary
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  • Dogs Allowed
  • eBike Allowed
  • TTFs on Trail
    Berm, Drop, Jump
  • Global Ranking
    #216 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #47283 in Trail Running
    • #44 in Hiking
  • Local Popularity
    80 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 40 in Trail Running
    • 35 in Hiking
  • Land Owner
    Washington State DNR

A truly great trail. Catch the start by taking a right at the trail junction off the E. Tiger Summit trail after it crosses the summit road. Like the other new trails on Tiger, OTG has a bit of everything. It's mostly flowy, but also has its share of tech and gnar (roots and some short rocks gardens). This is a long descent, broken up by a punchy uphill section about a 3rd of the way down. For a descent, it's pretty aerobic. The rock gardens can be very greasy when wet, and thus can be difficult to ride cleanly then - especially the off-camber one. The upper trails at Tiger are not good to ride during or right after a rainstorm, as it does too much damage to the trail. Give 'em a rest until they dry out for a few days. OTG exits right at the top of Fully Rigid.

Local Trail Association
Traditionally Indigenous Territory
More Stats for Off The Grid mountain bike trail trail
  • Altitude change
    -837 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,980 ft
  • Altitude max
    2,817 ft
  • Altitude start
    2,817 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,982 ft
  • Grade
  • Grade max
  • Grade min
  • Distance climb
    673 ft
  • Distance down
    2 miles
  • Distance flat
    108 ft
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on Mar 26, 2023
Snow Covered
Avg: 4.5 (101 votes)
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      Off The Grid Trail Reports

      Mar 26, 2023 @ 1:46pm
      22 hours
      Had fresh tracks. Too much snow but surprisingly rideable if you don’t mind pedaling top to bottom ☹️. Not worth it.
      Mar 23, 2023 @ 7:11pm
      Mar 23, 2023
      Dropped in at top of QuickLink. Minor dusting of wet slushy snow. Trail was wet but great. Some puddles but not too bad.
      Mar 19, 2023 @ 8:32am
      Mar 19, 2023
      I dropped in from NOTG. From that crossing to about a 3/4 of the entire distance (about 1.4 miles from top) it is snow covered. Had to push it...
      Feb 11, 2023 @ 9:28pm
      Feb 11, 2023
      Feb 4, 2023 @ 2:51pm
      Feb 4, 2023
      Hero dirt. No snow or puddles. Just smiles.
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      Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

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      6 Months
      • 322 rides
      • 13 miles avg distance
      • 9,670 rides
      • Last: Feb 12, 2023


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      21 Reviews & Comments

      • + 0
      Slugjockey (Jan 31, 2023 at 21:17)
      If you are an advanced to expert rider, and can handle any level of trail, I don’t GAF if you think this is XC, or blue, or even green. Trail ratings are only tangentially there for you. For example, Olallie is green, but it’s also a blue if you’re going faster than 20mph which is easily achievable. The PRIMARY reason trail ratings exist is so that people who do not have the skills to ride a particular trail, don’t. The last thing you want is low intermediate rider deciding to ride a trail based on rating, and having a terrible experience, or worse, a bad digger. We get it. You’re a badass. Nobody cares. But an intermediate rider is not going to have fun on this trail, or get hurt. It’s balack for them.
      • + 0
      cheekio (Sep 1, 2022 at 14:56)
      For me, I also found this trail to be more blue-ish, similar to Chipmunk Rebellion in Whistler. However, I did ride it in excellent and very dry conditions. It has enough tech features to earn its black rating, if you hit them fast and high and in the wet. Regardless, it’s super fun!
      • + 0
      Ch1ck3nn (Oct 23, 2021 at 18:58)
      Trail is in good shape. Lots of fun. Just be ready to get muddy
      • - 1
      ebarnes1 (Jul 4, 2021 at 17:37)
      Honestly kind of confused about this trail. I get that they are trying to keep all the natural features such as roots, rocks, and drops but for how popular this trail is it needs way more work. Smooth out some of the flow sections, clean up the rock lines, and this trail would definitely be a 5/5
      • + 0
      BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 21:57)
      Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
      • + 1
      photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:44)
      Pretty fun trail when it's dry, but holds moisture more than others so if it's wet I'd not bother. When it's dry and fast there's plenty of room for creativity if you maintain speed.
      • - 1
      shaggedelic (Jan 22, 2021 at 18:11)
      I dunno about this, so over hyped felt like a waste of time. I did NOTG first and won’t be doing OTG ever again.
      • + 1
      yman98 (Nov 29, 2020 at 12:02)
      Recent rework has improved the flow of the trail. Ironing out a few of the awkward sections.
      • + 1
      adamweld (Sep 22, 2020 at 22:52)
      Absolutely one of the best trails in Washington.
      • + 3
      TheRent8590 (Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56)
      This trail is loaded with obstacles, drops, off camber roots and rock gardens. There are several drops with tricky rock placement that could easily throw you off; intermediate riders may struggle conquering them all at first.
      No one cares if you think it’s a blue or black; this trail is wicked fun, just go and ride it!
      • - 1
      Nwilkes (Jun 16, 2020 at 22:43)
      This is borderline XC. Black??
      • + 3
      jdh (Feb 3, 2021 at 14:36)
      IMO it depends how fast you hit it. I can scare myself on this trail, or I can pick my way down. If I do the former, it's a black, esp. if I take all the side hits and try to air things. Anyone could poke their way down though, so that does make it more of a "dark" blue trail.
      • + 3
      CaptainBLT (Aug 9, 2021 at 10:55)
      "Anyone could poke their way down" means it really shouldn't be black.

      Especially after the trail maintenance this year, there are no mandatory gaps or drops, there is no section where you can't come to a complete stop without issue, and the trail still works just fine if you aren't able to carry speed.

      Remy Metailler can find 40 foot gaps with sniper landings on blue trails in Whistler Bike Park, that doesn't make them pro lines.
      • - 1
      jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:50)
      The top is fun and flowy, at the split I would recommend NOTG as a much more flowy and fun descent.
      The bottom part of Off The Grid has little flow and is to filled with switchbacks to flat sections.
      • + 2
      dirtworship (May 17, 2019 at 22:51)
      Super fun descent, lots of flow but also lots of smashing over roots and rocks. Top notch trail, keeps you guessing with every turn.
      • - 2
      marebearrr (Mar 29, 2019 at 16:34)
      I would definitely say this is a black diamond. At least to me. Lots of obstacles. Lota of right switchbacks, rocks, roots, and drop offs. Lots of work. Fun but very challenging. Not a relaxing swooping downhill. If I were naming this trial: “relentles
      • + 3
      hi-dr-nick Reporter (Sep 11, 2018 at 14:21)
      Definitely not as hard as it sounds. More of a blue/black than a true black. With that said, super fun trail that keeps things interesting throughout its entirety.
      • + 0
      DBoop7 (Oct 13, 2017 at 20:50)
      Was really rainy today but was still a blast!! Lots of slippery rocks and roots though.
      • + 0
      jayacheess (Oct 17, 2015 at 10:20)
      This really is an amazing trail. I'd love to get down there again and ride the new Predator trail.

      My only concern with the Tiger mountain riding area is the difficulty ratings seem to be a bit inflated. This trail feels squarely like an Intermediate, and nothing that I saw from POV videos makes Predator look like a double black. But maybe that's a good thing if it keeps unprepared people off the trails? shrug
      • + 2
      boxxerace TRAILFORKS (Jul 24, 2015 at 23:11)
      What a fantastic trail! Wish it went all the way to the bottom.
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