25.7 miles
Distance
3,941 ft
Climb
-3,943 ft
Descent
1 mile
High Point

Great ebike loop with first 10 mi all singletrack, losing ~1300'. Then it's some pretty awesome views on 2-track along the edge of the Gunnison River that turns into a steep, chunky climb ~2000' up Windmill Rd to the Tabeguache Trail where you'll quickly lose ~1200' and do a slick rock climb ~800'. The last ~ 1 mi is blessed downhill of pavement on Little Park Road back to 3rd Flats Trailhead where you started.
A portion of this course has been used in the Grand Junction Offroad XC Race.
This entire route is sanctioned by BLM for moto.

Detailed Description
2nd Thots-Butterknife-Windmill-Tabeguache Loop is a 26 mile less popular expert route located near Grand Junction Colorado. This mountain bike primary route can be used one direction and has a hard overall physical rating. This route includes 2 trails. This route climbs 3,941 ft with a max elevation of 6,606 ft then descends -3,943 ft.
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6 Reviews & Comments

  • + 1
bkxc (Oct 26, 2020 at 16:27)
Trail Butterknife
I had a blast on this trail, ridden in the "downhill" direction (west to east) on an eBike. This trail on a normal bike would be absolutely brutal. It has TONS of fun techy climbs, but dear god, after the 10th one you'd be thinking "Can't be many more!" and you'd be wrong. Great eBike trail!
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inchmile (May 15, 2019 at 15:52)
Not listed as ebike, but it is. Same status as The Butterknife.
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jgraham1040 (May 16, 2018 at 12:06)
I love this trail, for being so new it's amazing, I rode this as an uphill and while it was a bit loose at the end but the overall condition of the trail is great for being so new. I recommend dropping some tire pressure for this one lots of technical rocks to climb over along with some loose and dry bits too.
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mysticmountainadventures (Apr 18, 2016 at 16:57)
Trail Butterknife
As grandvalleydave noted this is a moto trail and there are better options for mountain bikes to choose from in the area. Some nice views and neat sections but give it a miss unless you've got a thing for riding moto trails on a bicycle.
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inchmile (Jan 17, 2020 at 13:07)
Trail Butterknife
I disagree with Jake. This is a great, somewhat technical mountain bike trail. I love it and I'm 75.
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grandvalleydave GVTA (Jun 22, 2015 at 16:42)
Trail Butterknife
A favorite test piece for the Grand Valley and featured prominently in the Grand Junction Off-Road mountain bike event. Please note, that this is a motorized singletrack trail, built by motorcyclists and mountain bikers need to respect this fact.
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  • Primary Activity
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  • Other Activities
    • E-Bike
  • Difficulty rating
    Black Diamond
  • Route Type
    Loop
  • eBike Allowed
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  • Direction
    One Direction
  • Physical rating
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  • Ridelogs
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More Stats for 2nd Thots-Butterknife-Windmill-Tabeguache Loop mountain bike route
  • Altitude min
    4,602 ft
  • Altitude start
    5,883 ft
  • Altitude end
    5,883 ft
  • Grade max
    -37.9%
  • Grade min
    41.5%
  • Distance climb
    13 miles
  • Distance down
    12 miles
  • Distance flat
    1 mile
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