51.1 miles
Distance
5,297 ft
Climb
-5,301 ft
Descent
4,231 ft
High Point

2020 AES TMP Route in the Tortolita Mountains

Detailed Description
AES TMP 50 is a 51 mile expert race route located near Tucson Arizona. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a hard overall physical rating. This route includes 8 trails. This route climbs 5,297 ft with a max elevation of 4,231 ft then descends -5,301 ft.
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47 Reviews & Comments

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Scottyputo (Mar 19, 2022 at 17:14)
Trail Wild Mustang
Heed the user rating average
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Skinnyoldman (Jan 5, 2022 at 23:08)
Had a peculiar interaction today, thought I'd share. Dude was dressed in full camo, riding a Spec e bike to bow hunt from the Honeybee trail. Really didn't seem to know his way around, was lost. I've ridden there plenty of times and have never seen anything like it. Hope it's not a trend (ppl using e bikes to hunt where other ppl ride). He was talking about hunting deer and javalina, which really makes no sense unless he's just going to leave them for dead. It was odd and I hope more hunters aren't going to do the same, kind of wish it would be designated as a "no hunting" area. Hunting and biking are ideally engaged in at separate locations.
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Skinnyoldman (Jan 7, 2022 at 10:11)
PS if you see questionable/unsafe hunting activity the number to call is 800-352-0700. They prefer that you call immediately, but will take a report after the fact.
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Keeganpi3Q72 (Dec 12, 2021 at 7:13)
Trail Wild Mustang
What a hoot. PIA climb but a blast coming down.
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Keeganpi3Q72 (Dec 12, 2021 at 7:12)
This is an excellent trail. Tough climb but worth it.
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Ampfrog (Nov 29, 2021 at 4:38)
Highly recommend riding up HB East, and back down HB West. West has some more fun rocky features to roll down, easy to flow down, plus some long smooth sections of fast cruising. Climbing up them would be not so fun.
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shaker666 (Oct 16, 2021 at 23:59)
Trail Wild Mustang
I've ridden this trail both ways, but IMHO it is best descended headed west, which means climbing up Wild Burro first (headed east). Best ridden in the cooler months, as almost all trails below 5000' are in Tucson. A good AM bike probably makes it more enjoyable, with a slacker head angle and about 5-6" of travel. Tons of exposure, including sheer cliff as well as solar - this ride is not for the faint of heart. Rocks me every time I ride it, but you will feel like an accomplished rider if you can clean most of it!
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RinconRambler (May 12, 2021 at 17:20)
Long mostly easy trail with some challenging sections. You do the majority of the uphill going in and easy downhill on the way out. One should have some kind of map when riding it the first time. There are lots of trail junctions, few signs and lots of opportunities to get off the main trail which adds miles to an already long ride. Also, watch out for cholla cactus! Both my friend and I have crashed into cholla on the Honeybee at different times. Cholla turned an awesome ride into a miserable experience in an instant. But all-in-all, Honeybee is one of my favorite rides.
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Josephcain4 (Feb 15, 2021 at 10:07)
Hard trail for me, really steep and some pretty committing lines. Might try it again with a longer travel bike, but not in a hurry to get back on it. I can see the attraction to some folks, but I'll do Bugs many times before hitting this again.
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Josephcain4 (Feb 15, 2021 at 10:02)
Great trail! Love the long climb to beautiful views and the descent was really fun and left me breathing hard too! Hard to get to, but so worth it.
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Josephcain4 (Feb 15, 2021 at 10:00)
Trail Wild Mustang
Wow, that was hard, kinda kicked my butt. Steep and technical with lots of grade changes and a few chunky sections. Rode it on a 2010 xc 29er with 100,80mm and felt pretty chewed up by the end. Might try again sometime on a longer travel bike, but not in a hurry to get back on it or Lower Javelina. Prolly just need to up my game.
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Josephcain4 (Feb 18, 2021 at 14:51)
Trail Wild Mustang
But beautiful scenery and cool geology too (from a geologist perspective at least).
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Josephcain4 (Jan 31, 2022 at 15:33)
Trail Wild Mustang
So much more fun on a newer bike! did this again last weekend (1/23/22), and had a much better time. still a very challenging ride, but not nearly as ground up. We did a point to point from Honeybee to Dove Mountain - running a shuttle. when i get in better shape, i think it would be a great spin back to the Honeybee parking lot, but as it was, i was plenty happy to see the vehicle at the bottom of the trail!
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jkoshea (Jan 9, 2021 at 14:21)
Guy was driving a gold mid 90s Jeep Cherokee
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jkoshea (Jan 9, 2021 at 14:08)
A friend's on leash puppy was attacked here today by an off leash pitbull. Puppy is at the vet now with ruptured spleen. Would love info if anyone sees this and knows the owner of the pitbull. They took off before we got their tag.
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Cbake (Dec 19, 2020 at 20:53)
Super fun DH. Great trail work on the switchbacks. Highly recommended
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Cbake (Dec 19, 2020 at 20:49)
Trail Wild Mustang
Rode this on 12/19/20. Great trail both directions. Loved the challenging climb up from the Ridgeline side and thoroughly enjoyed the technical decent on the other side. A few hikers in a Saturday but not bad. Highly recommend
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kraudust (Sep 1, 2020 at 6:53)
Trail Wild Mustang
Super fun downhill. Has a bit of everything! Super chunky challenge. Great views and great riding. I like to access it from the backside as a Loop though rather than as an out and back.
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kraudust (Sep 1, 2020 at 6:50)
Super fun techy challenge climbing, and an absolute riot descending. Don't listen to any of the negative comments. This trails is sweet! Definitely a true black though.
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rockiesvacations (Aug 18, 2020 at 10:56)
Found out about this trail from the bike shop next door who referred me to a local bicycle rental delivery service that delivered our mountain bikes to the trail. So cool.

HoneyBee Canyon is a spectacular mountain bike trail that is great for bikers of all levels. I find this trail addictive because of the incredible scenery and there is enough technicality to keep my attention. You really cannot say enough great things about this trail.
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phoenixbiker (Jul 4, 2020 at 10:31)
Trail Wild Mustang
This is not a good mountain bike trail. I spent more time hiking with my bike then riding it. Not worth it.
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andy-legrunge (Aug 3, 2020 at 13:43)
Trail Wild Mustang
It's not the trail, it's you. Sorry dude.
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bolockaye (Jan 8, 2020 at 23:17)
My favorite DH in Tucson.
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mendyourline (Jan 3, 2020 at 7:10)
Getting to the trailhead off hwy77 is on W Edwin Road, 5+ miles of dirt road, slow going, so plan accordingly.
Most of the route is on double track, and really just an access to the Park. It would be perfect on an e-bike ????
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mendyourline (Jan 3, 2020 at 6:48)
Trail Loop Trail
Agree with others N>S is the best route linking to Ridgeline. Well built trails with good signage.
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andy-legrunge (Dec 21, 2019 at 17:23)
Such a badass downhill combined with Wild Mustang, well worth the challenging approach options. Steep chunk and switchbacks along the lines of Millie/Bugs with these rad rock-bermed switchbacks near the bottom. Fully rideable as a descent for reasonably skilled riders. Uphill is a different story.

Please be cool coming down, there are usually a few hikers out here. Not crowded by any means but stay in control.
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andy-legrunge (Dec 21, 2019 at 17:15)
Trail Wild Mustang
I didn’t notice any monsoon damage. There are still a couple hairball sections but it’s the same as ever.
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Pinsx3 (Sep 27, 2019 at 18:41)
This was really fun. After Washington I really wanted pads. No soft loamy landings into cuddly ferns. Just shale and fractured granite. Great ride. Way better starting at the bottom so you can figure out lines on some features
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Pinsx3 (Sep 27, 2019 at 9:48)
How do you up to this without some crazy HAB??? We rode up wild burro only to end up on a double black up hill suffer fest
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jeffgicklhorn SDMB (Sep 29, 2019 at 22:57)
Approach via the Honeybee trails to the east via www.trailforks.com/trails/tortolita-mountain-park-access
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mobboss (Sep 7, 2019 at 9:19)
Supper fun DH. Much more flowy than wild Mustang, Much recommended
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mobboss (Sep 7, 2019 at 9:17)
Trail Wild Mustang
Pretty monsoon damaged right now. This trail is for supper advanced riders only, but then again it might be cake for you.
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ryancartiers (Jun 2, 2019 at 11:01)
Watch out for cactus. And cattle.
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rockiesvacations (Aug 18, 2020 at 10:56)
The cattle is real! I almost ran into one. They do not move well!
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ryancartiers (Aug 19, 2020 at 22:32)
and sometimes they hide in the bushes before walking in front of you!
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LukeSimmons (Mar 17, 2019 at 23:43)
Going uphill on the Edwin Rd side is fun until right near the very top. The downhill just over the crest is plnety wide and fairly steep and bumpy. On the way out from the loop, the small uphill section is very difficult to finish in the saddle especially ially after a long day. The downhill section on the way out is easily one of the best parts in this area! Super diverse and flowy!
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LukeSimmons (Mar 17, 2019 at 23:37)
Easy trail except for the hairpin turns and some small gaps. But absolutely the most amazing views in Tucson!
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LukeSimmons (Mar 17, 2019 at 23:36)
Trail Loop Trail
Amazing climb, only a couple palces where you might need to get off. Fairly steep, but doable since it isn't too rocky. The only challenge is the tight turns and small gaps caused by some rocks. Definitely the way to start the loop.
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markpeternell (Feb 18, 2019 at 5:43)
Trail Loop Trail
Great climb with amazing views from the top. Can't miss ride if you are visiting Tucson.
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robcocquyt (Feb 2, 2019 at 15:37)
Yep, rideable with some steep technical bits in both directions.
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andy-legrunge (Dec 8, 2018 at 21:43)
Totally rideable but definitely steep and exhausting
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jeffgicklhorn SDMB (Jan 22, 2018 at 8:18)
One of the best trails that I have ridden in the Tucson area. Be aware that there can be a lot of hikers on the weekends.
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TC-FLOWCLYDE (Feb 22, 2016 at 21:35)
Awesome 360 degrees views with tight singletrack...I would rate a 4.75 star not a 3 star as I accidentally did in the average rating section. When connected to the Wild Burro--upper section loop, it's a sweet ride!
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madriaanse (Oct 10, 2014 at 19:07)
Hike/ride up from the metal gate (marked "end" on the map) and then ride it from the peak back down the same way you came up. Very fun trail. Kinda DH.
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  • Race Course
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  • Primary Activity
    Mountain Bike
  • Difficulty rating
    Black Diamond
  • Route Type
    Loop
  • Bike type
    AM, XC
  • Direction
    One Direction
  • Physical rating
    Hard
  • Ridelogs
    2
More Stats for AES TMP 50 mountain bike route
  • Altitude min
    2,278 ft
  • Altitude start
    3,066 ft
  • Altitude end
    3,061 ft
  • Grade
    -0%
  • Grade max
    -50.2%
  • Grade min
    62.5%
  • Distance climb
    23 miles
  • Distance down
    22 miles
  • Distance flat
    6 miles
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