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4,921 ft
Distance
56 ft
Climb
-395 ft
Descent
00:09:09
Avg time
-339 ft
Altitude change
5,094 ft
Altitude min
5,462 ft
Altitude max
5,433 ft
Altitude start
5,095 ft
Altitude end
-6.9%
Grade
-31.7%
Grade max
15.2%
Grade min
1,066 ft
Distance climb
3,386 ft
Distance down
469 ft
Distance flat
00:09:09
Avg time

Optimator Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    The Hub
    Idyllwild - Pine Cove, California
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Voted Difficulty
    Blue (1 vote)
  • Local Popularity
    85 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 5 in Trail Running
    • 5 in Hiking
  • Global Ranking
    #17479 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #280726 in Trail Running
    • #253975 in Hiking
  • Hiking SAC Scale
    T2 Mountain Hiking
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Direction
    Both Directions
    Popular Direction Shown
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • Land Owner
    USFS - San Bernardino National Forest, San Jacinto Rangers District

Oh my goodness this is the quintesential Idyllwild trail....so amazing. One, if not the original trail in the area. Named after the famous German beer. Once great now even greater. It has been revamped in 2023 into nothing but banked blissful DH flow fun!

This trail is unsanctioned.

Traditionally Indigenous Territory

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  • 13 miles avg distance
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Oct 11, 2025 @ 4:32pm (America/Los_Angeles)
Oct 11, 2025
Aug 21, 2025 @ 11:39pm
Aug 21, 2025
Running great
Sep 24, 2024 @ 10:35am
Sep 24, 2024
Ripping fast
Jun 13, 2024 @ 8:18pm
Jun 13, 2024
Trail is running great with recent berm improvements. Optimized for descending but can be climbed with caution - descending riders may not be...
May 25, 2024 @ 10:13am
May 25, 2024
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on Oct 11, 2025
Ideal
Avg: 3.89 (4 votes)
Your vote: 0

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        Directions to optimator trailhead (33.749030, -116.759780)

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        Oct 21, 2025 @ 12:50am
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        Optimator - Steep, Fun, Flow in Idyllwild, CA
        10:04 | 20 | Apr 3, 2026 , Idyllwild - Pine Cove
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        17:33 | 185 | Jan 5, 2025 , Idyllwild - Pine Cove

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        Frequently Asked Questions About Optimator

        Where is Optimator located?
        Optimator is located in The Hub, Idyllwild - Pine Cove, California, United States. It is part of the The Hub trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 33.74903, -116.75978.
        How hard is Optimator?
        Optimator is rated as Blue difficulty. The average grade is 6.9%.
        What is the elevation gain for Optimator?
        Optimator has 56 ft of elevation gain. The trail has 395 ft of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 5,094 ft to 5,462 ft.
        Is Optimator a point to point trail?
        Optimator is not a point to point trail. The direction is Both Directions. The trail type is singletrack.

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