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3.1 miles
Distance
365 ft
Climb
-805 ft
Descent
00:46:41
Avg time
-441 ft
Altitude change
5,445 ft
Altitude min
6,055 ft
Altitude max
5,886 ft
Altitude start
5,446 ft
Altitude end
-2.7%
Grade
-41.3%
Grade max
26.1%
Grade min
5,066 ft
Distance climb
2 miles
Distance down
1,329 ft
Distance flat
00:46:41
Avg time
Toptimator Details
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Activities
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Riding AreaThe Hub
Idyllwild - Pine Cove, California -
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Voted DifficultyBlue (1 vote)
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Local Popularity75 in Mountain Biking [+]
- 5 in Trail Running
- 5 in Hiking
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Trail TypeSingletrack
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Bike TypeDH, XC
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DirectionDownhill PrimaryPopular Direction Shown
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Dogs AllowedYes
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Land OwnerUSFS - San Bernardino National Forest, San Jacinto Rangers District
After the grind up this is the reward. Mostly flowing DH connecting the Silver Crag trails over to the top of Red Hill road and all the great trails that start there like Optimator, Hard Sun and the sleeping trails.
This trail is unsanctioned.
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Traditionally Indigenous Territory
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- Last: Jun 21, 2026
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Directions to toptimator trailhead
(33.745480, -116.742930)
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Frequently Asked Questions About Toptimator
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Where is Toptimator located?
Toptimator is located in The Hub, Idyllwild - Pine Cove, California, United States. It is part of the The Hub trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 33.74548, -116.74293.
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How hard is Toptimator?
Toptimator is rated as Blue difficulty. The average grade is 2.7%.
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What is the elevation gain for Toptimator?
Toptimator has 365 ft of elevation gain. The trail has 805 ft of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 5,445 ft to 6,055 ft.
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Is Toptimator a point to point trail?
Toptimator is not a point to point trail. The direction is Downhill Primary. The trail type is singletrack.
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