more stats
738 ft
Distance
-185 ft
Descent
00:03:59
Avg time
-185 ft
Altitude change
2,160 ft
Altitude min
2,345 ft
Altitude max
2,345 ft
Altitude start
2,159 ft
Altitude end
-25.1%
Grade
-42.4%
Grade max
696 ft
Distance down
43 ft
Distance flat
00:03:59
Avg time

Upper Waffles Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • E-Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Box Springs Mountain
    Moreno Valley, California
  • Difficulty Rating
    Double Black Diamond Rate
  • Local Popularity
    80 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 30 in E-Biking
    • 5 in Trail Running
    • 5 in Hiking
  • Global Ranking
    #26525 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #89917 in E-Biking
    • #312812 in Trail Running
    • #36353 in Hiking
  • Trail Exposure
    Life Threatening
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    DH
  • Physical Rating
    Hard
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
    Yes
  • TTFs on Trail
    Drop, Rock Face, Rock Garden

Very Steep and rocky trail. Big rock slabs and tight turns keep you on your toes. There is a cool section through a rock cave. Trail is LOOSE in summer, send with caution.

Access Info

Best to climb all the way around and up Pigeon pass road, up the dirt access road to the top of W trail. Or you can pedal from the bottom of waffles up Jackass Climb, but it can be hard to follow and very steep to climb.

This trail is unsanctioned.

Traditionally Indigenous Territory

Recent Activity on Trail

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  • Last: Feb 22, 2026
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Upper Waffles Trail Reports

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Dec 15, 2023 @ 4:23pm
Dec 15, 2023
 Completely unrideable. Very grown over. Looks like it was once a super cool trail, would be super cool if someone brought it back to life
Jul 12, 2021 @ 9:04pm
Jul 12, 2021
 Little ovegrown in some sections but completely rideable.
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on Dec 15, 2023
Avg: 4.1 (3 votes)
Your vote: 0

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      1 Review & Comments

      Builtbygriffin
      Trail is gone. Hopefully someone brings it back to life, wouldn’t take much and it could be super cool

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      Frequently Asked Questions

      ▼ Where is Upper Waffles located?
      Upper Waffles is located in Box Springs Mountain, Moreno Valley, California, United States. It is part of the Box Springs Mountain trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 33.97972, -117.27813.
      ▼ How hard is Upper Waffles?
      Upper Waffles is rated as Double Black Diamond difficulty. The physical rating is Hard. The average grade is 25.1%.
      ▼ What is the elevation gain for Upper Waffles?
      The trail has 185 ft of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 2,160 ft to 2,345 ft.
      ▼ How long is Upper Waffles?
      Upper Waffles is 738 ft long. The trail type is singletrack.
      ▼ Are dogs allowed on Upper Waffles?
      Yes, dogs are allowed on Upper Waffles. Please keep dogs on a leash where required and clean up after them.
      ▼ How do I access Upper Waffles? Where is the closest parking trailhead?
      The closest parking and trailhead locations to Upper Waffles are: View all parking locations in the area.
      ▼ How long does it take to ride Upper Waffles?
      Based on recorded activities, it takes an average of 2 minutes to ride Upper Waffles. The trail is 738 ft long. Actual times will vary based on fitness level, conditions, and pace. View recent activity logs for more details.
      ▼ How busy is Upper Waffles?
      Upper Waffles is a very popular trail. There have been 92 recorded activities on this trail. The trail has received 98 check-ins. View recent activity on this trail.

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