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2,956 ft
Distance
33 ft
Climb
-75 ft
Descent
1,017 ft
High Point
-44 ft
Altitude change
954 ft
Altitude min
1,017 ft
Altitude start
974 ft
Altitude end
-1.5%
Grade
-19.9%
Grade max
9.9%
Grade min
873 ft
Distance climb
1,414 ft
Distance down
525 ft
Distance flat

YMMV Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • Winter Fat Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
    • Snowshoe
  • Riding Area
    Jefferson Forest
    Richmond Hill, Ontario
  • Difficulty Rating
    Black Diamond Rate
  • Voted Difficulty
    Black Diamond (2 votes)
  • Local Popularity
    85 in Mountain Biking
  • Global Ranking
    #161210 in Mountain Biking
  • Hiking SAC Scale
    T1 Hiking
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Snow Grooming
    Backcountry
  • Bike Type
    XC, Fat
  • Climb Difficulty
    Double Black Diamond
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
    No
  • Land Owner
    Toronto Region Conservation Authority

Bidirectional trail going from Bethesda parking lot (with a filter feature to ensure you're not getting in over your head) ending mid-way along Gelato Dreaming. The first half is full of punchy climbs and tight switchbacks, with a sweet little rock drop/roll (and b-line). Once you cross Brush Whacker (over the culvert), the second half starts with a bigger (~2') drop, then continues the punchy climbs but instead of switchbacks you're rewarded with a couple of jumps (and b-lines), followed by some nice swoops curves. This trail is a great way to start a harder ride, or for when you want to work on your technical skills.

Local Trail Association
Traditionally Indigenous Territory

Recent Activity on Trail

Past Week
  • 9 rides
  • 12 miles average
6 Months
  • 157 rides
  • 12 miles avg distance
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  • 432 rides
  • Last: Sep 3, 2026
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Aug 11, 2026 @ 9:29pm (America/Toronto)
Aug 11, 2026
 reporter Completely overgrown in spots. Multiple head banger branches in spots. One tree down, blocking one of the optional lines near the start.
Jun 27, 2026 @ 8:51am (America/Toronto)
Jun 27, 2026
Jun 4, 2026 @ 5:51pm (America/Toronto)
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Apr 22, 2026 @ 4:33pm (America/Toronto)
Apr 22, 2026
 Some areas are muddy
Mar 15, 2026 @ 5:07pm (America/Toronto)
Mar 15, 2026
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Avg: 3.74 (2 votes)
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        Frequently Asked Questions About YMMV

        ▼ Where is YMMV located?
        YMMV is located in Jefferson Forest, Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada. It is part of the Jefferson Forest trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 43.95138, -79.42066.
        ▼ How hard is YMMV?
        YMMV is rated as Double Black Diamond difficulty. The average grade is 1.5%. The climb difficulty is rated Double Black Diamond.
        ▼ What is the elevation gain for YMMV?
        YMMV has 33 ft of elevation gain. The trail has 75 ft of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 954 ft to 1,017 ft.
        ▼ How long is YMMV?
        YMMV is 2,956 ft long. The trail type is singletrack.
        ▼ Are dogs allowed on YMMV?
        Yes, dogs are allowed on YMMV. Please keep dogs on a leash where required and clean up after them.
        ▼ How do I access YMMV? Where is the closest parking trailhead?
        The closest parking and trailhead locations to YMMV are: View all parking locations in the area.
        ▼ How busy is YMMV?
        YMMV is a very popular trail. There have been 709 recorded activities on this trail. The trail has received 772 check-ins. View recent activity on this trail.

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