1 miles
Distance
124 ft
Climb
-1,054 ft
Descent
00:26:38
Avg time

Old Man Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • E-Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
    • Horse
  • Riding Area
    South Mountain Park
    Phoenix, Arizona
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Trail Usage
    Multi-use
  • Direction
    Downhill Primary
    Popular direction shown
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
  • Global Ranking
    #18719 in Mountain Biking
  • Local Popularity
    25 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 5 in E-Biking
    • 5 in Trail Running
    • 55 in Hiking
    • 5 in Horseback
  • Land Manager

A steep, primitive, unmaintained trail that is unlike the comparatively well traveled and well "groomed" South Mountain standards like Javelina, Geronimo, Beverly and National.

Note that this social trail is currently unsanctioned, but it is planned to be adopted in coming years as part of the Corona de Loma Loop according to the South Mountain Trails Master Plan.

Steep drop in from the amazing vantage point just above the National saddle. Head right at the fast fork, then a slight uphill over some technical rock formations before you begin the first major descent.

Once you start downhill over the first large, undulating rock slabs, expect a very loose tread with minimal grip and must make moves at speed.

The first feature is a steep rock roll into a small rock garden followed by an immediate 90° right hander. Scout first, lots of wheel traps off the fast line.

The second feature is a slow semi-uphill 90° right into a very steep, jagged rock chute. Again, a precise line is key, and you only have split second to dial it in.

A few more narrow rock gardens brings you to a VERY exposed basalt boulder field. Not clear if there is a real rideable route through this high consequence section, but any miscalculation will result in a several hundred foot tumble off the east face of the mountain. Use extreme caution - remember, you are in a very remote part of the park with little traffic should you eat it.

Just after this segment, you'll hit a 45° switch back that heads into the steepest sustained downhill stretch of this trail. Also happens to be the loosest, with a surface of 100% shale shards. Enjoy sliding down this and watch the few boulders sticking up near the middle of the run.

After that, you'll enter a very straightforward section of moderately technical trail that heads toward Secret Trail before linking up with Desert Classic. This section through the top of the canyon into Secret is great singletrack, and the trail is much grippier and faster, though the rocks are much sharper.

This trail is unsanctioned, use at your own risk!

More Stats for Old Man mountain bike trail
  • Altitude change
    -930 ft
  • Altitude min
    1,473 ft
  • Altitude max
    2,515 ft
  • Altitude start
    2,403 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,473 ft
  • Grade
    -12.828%
  • Grade max
    -135.441%
  • Grade min
    63.978%
  • Distance climb
    1,095 ft
  • Distance down
    1 miles
  • Distance flat
    524 ft
  • Avg time
    00:26:38
  • Avg reverse time
    01:02:58
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Status:
on Jan 22, 2020
Ideal
Avg: 3.65 (6 votes)

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  • Wilderness (typically no bikes in USA)
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  • State land
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Trail Conditions
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  • Snow Groomed
  • Snow Packed
  • Snow Covered
  • Freeze/thaw Cycle
  • Icy
  • Prevalent Mud
  • Wet
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  • Ideal
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      Old Man Trail Reports

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      Jan 22, 2020 @ 5:41pm
      Jan 22, 2020
      loose, larger rocks. Can get solid footing but need to go slow with careful foot placement. Steep, narrow.
      Jan 22, 2020 @ 5:40pm
      Jan 22, 2020
      loose, larger rocks. Can get solid footing but need to go slow with careful foot placement. Steep, narrow.
      Nov 12, 2019 @ 6:13am
      Nov 12, 2019
      Dec 27, 2018 @ 9:09am
      Dec 27, 2018
      Lots of loose shale rock with some exposure on tight single track. It is a Technical trail and best for advanced riders
      Nov 4, 2018 @ 8:33am
      Nov 4, 2018
      So, so, sooo loose!
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      • 11 rides
      • 14 miles avg distance
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      • 38 rides
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      1 Review & Comments

      • + 1
      flag Mfox347 (Mar 9, 2020 at 16:28)
       Rode this in mid-2019. Trail could use some maintenance because it is heavily littered with slippery big flat rocks that are hard to gain traction on, mix that with a few 2-5 foot drop offs and you could have a really fun or bad time. Your choice!
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