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2,598 ft
Distance
36 ft
Climb
-403 ft
Descent
00:11:02
Avg time
-367 ft
Altitude change
375 ft
Altitude min
779 ft
Altitude max
741 ft
Altitude start
374 ft
Altitude end
-14.1%
Grade
-35.5%
Grade max
23.6%
Grade min
384 ft
Distance climb
1,972 ft
Distance down
243 ft
Distance flat
00:11:02
Avg time

Pointless Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • E-Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
    • Observed Trials
  • Riding Area
    Valleycliffe
    Squamish, British Columbia
  • Difficulty Rating
    Black Diamond Rate
  • Voted Difficulty
    Double Black Diamond (1 vote)
  • Local Popularity
    55 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 75 in E-Biking
    • 20 in Trail Running
    • 25 in Hiking
    • 75 in Observed Trials
  • Global Ranking
    #92044 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #23524 in E-Biking
    • #158258 in Trail Running
    • #157136 in Hiking
    • #214 in Observed Trials
  • Provincial Ranking
    #4,666 in Mountain Biking · British Columbia [+]
    • #1,558 in E-Biking
    • #9,877 in Trail Running
    • #10,063 in Hiking
    • #204 in Observed Trials
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    AM
  • Direction
    Downhill Primary
    Popular Direction Shown
  • Climb Difficulty
    Blue
  • Physical Rating
    Moderate
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
    Yes up to Class 1
  • TTFs on Trail
    Bridge, Rock Face
  • Ride in Rain
    Yes
  • Year Opened
    2013
  • Land Owner
    Diamond Head Land Co

Parallels Meet Your Maker. There are a few forks on the trail, but all end in essentially the same place along The Graduate. Generally not too hard, but with a chute and rock face or two that elevates the trail just a bit beyond blue.

Access Info

Climb Sweeter The Barry to Start

Tags
BridgesRock slabsWet weather friendly
Local Trail Association
Traditionally Indigenous Territory

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  • 33 rides
  • 8 miles avg distance
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  • 430 rides
  • Last: Sep 26, 2026
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Pointless Trail Reports

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Sep 18, 2026 @ 3:59pm (America/Vancouver)
Sep 18, 2026
 it's in rough shape
Aug 3, 2026 @ 6:15pm (America/Vancouver)
Aug 3, 2026
May 2, 2026 @ 11:27am (Pacific/Midway)
May 2, 2026
Feb 22, 2026 @ 3:33pm (America/Vancouver)
Feb 22, 2026
 Finally got in and rebuilt the exit of the chute yesterday. Three of us added a significant amount of heavy rock work filling the trench that had...
Feb 14, 2026 @ 5:54pm (America/Vancouver)
Feb 14, 2026
 Completed a rework of the slab entrance today. There's no redirecting the water here (it comes out the ground) so instead we raised the trail bed...
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on Sep 18, 2026
Dry
Avg: 3.88 (13 votes)
Your vote: 0

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      Directions to pointless trailhead (49.717720, -123.114810)
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      The hill is seeping. Hard.
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      0:10 | 15 | Jan 31, 2026 , Squamish
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      0:17 | 11 | Jan 31, 2026 , Squamish
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      0:32 | 10 | Jan 31, 2026 , Squamish

      Technical Trail Features (TTF)

      Routes with this trail

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      SORCA ValleyCliff Thrill
      6 miles • 1,815 ft • 18 •
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      SORCA 2020 Social #1 - Option 2
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      6 miles • 1,148 ft • 25 • Point to Point • Race •
      Start on (at opposite Plateau Dr) Powerhouse Access Road Left on Access connector Farside Left on...

      Trail Products

      3.9 ★★★★★
      13 Ratings
      5 ★ 46%
      4 ★ 23%
      3 ★ 15%
      2 ★ 8%
      1 ★ 8%

      6 Reviews & Comments

      woofer2609 woofer2609
      Hidden gem, worth riding if you're in the area.
      kt03 kt03
      I don't know about flowy but it's a pretty challenging and gnarly trail a few loose bits. Inadvertently took a few offshoot trails (seems to be common in Valleycliffe) and ended up in some super gnarly bits, tight, STEEP, root drops...wild!
      Krheidel
      This is a black trail due to a few tougher features on it. The nap doesn't make it clear but it does so back and forth across the hill so it seems longer than meet yer maker and the features are more challenging. If you've ridden meet yer maker this trail is a good step up. Note that in all of Valleycliff the trail markers have pictures instead of difficulty ratings. For example this one has a dot and Spencer's has a rainbow.

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      Frequently Asked Questions

      ▼ Where is Pointless located?
      Pointless is located in Valleycliffe, Squamish, British Columbia, Canada. It is part of the Valleycliffe trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 49.71772, -123.11481.
      ▼ How hard is Pointless?
      Pointless is rated as Black Diamond difficulty. The physical rating is Moderate. The average grade is 14.1%. The climb difficulty is rated Blue.
      ▼ What is the elevation gain for Pointless?
      Pointless has 36 ft of elevation gain. The trail has 403 ft of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 375 ft to 779 ft.
      ▼ Is Pointless a point to point trail?
      Pointless is not a point to point trail. The direction is Downhill Primary. The trail type is singletrack.
      ▼ How long is Pointless?
      Pointless is 2,598 ft long. The trail type is singletrack.
      ▼ Are dogs allowed on Pointless?
      Yes, dogs are allowed on Pointless. Please keep dogs on a leash where required and clean up after them.
      ▼ How do I access Pointless? Where is the closest parking trailhead?
      The closest parking and trailhead locations to Pointless are: View all parking locations in the area.
      ▼ How long does it take to ride Pointless?
      Based on recorded activities, it takes an average of 10 minutes to ride Pointless. The trail is 2,598 ft long. Actual times will vary based on fitness level, conditions, and pace. View recent activity logs for more details.
      ▼ How busy is Pointless?
      Pointless is a moderately popular trail. There have been 2,175 recorded activities on this trail. The trail has received 2,004 check-ins. View recent activity on this trail.

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