8.8 miles
Distance
2,389 ft
Climb
-2,426 ft
Descent
2,852 ft
High Point

Tiger Mountain loop incorperating either off the grid of NOTG while also riding predator and not too much climbing.

Detailed Description
Jeszeck Loop (NOTG) is a 9 mile popular expert route located near Issaquah Washington. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a hard overall physical rating. This route includes 12 trails. This route climbs 2,389 ft with a max elevation of 2,852 ft then descends -2,426 ft.
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78 Reviews & Comments

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rlynd3 (3 days ago)
Only trace amount of snow with good traction and fun fast flow.
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JamesT1QHdm (Nov 11, 2022 at 19:06)
About 6” of snow at the top off trail. The trail was not too bad, but definitely a slow cautious ride.
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jakemannix (Sep 2, 2022 at 22:03)
Trail Predator
First, about this trail: I'm an intermediate rider (OTG, CE, and Super-T are totally fine for me, NOTG and EBAD are "hard" but doable), and this one is super hard for me, but other than the waterfall and the roll down to the service road, it's all "rowdy, but awesome" - everything rollable (with care).

If you can do EBAD and NOTG, you can do this, if you're careful - just scope things out before you dive in, and skip around any section that seems just too nuts. Hopefully at some point soon, I'll have the skills / dexterity to traverse the waterfall without crashing, and I'll have nuts to try the roll/drop down to the road.

About the trail *description* above: not sure why we need to compare this to Bellingham or Squamish: it's clearly harder than any single black diamond on Tiger or Raging River (although perhaps upper PT has a section two which is comparable), so even if it's "a black diamond with 2 double black features, at 1.6 miles of that, calling it a double black makes total sense. Also: why say whether "most people wear a half lid"? Some people (like me) *only* wear a full face, whenever riding downhill trails. No need to make people feel like they're "badder-ass" if they ride this on a hard-tail with a half-lid.

(I do stand by my earlier review/comment that splitting out Lower Predator into it's own trail that's single black would make sense. Only the roll-in is hard (but still easier than either the waterfall or the roll-down onto the road), but nothing else on that last lower section warrants more caution than e.g. EBAD or NOTG)
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cheekio (Sep 1, 2022 at 14:56)
Trail Off The Grid
For me, I also found this trail to be more blue-ish, similar to Chipmunk Rebellion in Whistler. However, I did ride it in excellent and very dry conditions. It has enough tech features to earn its black rating, if you hit them fast and high and in the wet. Regardless, it’s super fun!
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mrExplodey (Aug 23, 2022 at 10:08)
Trail Predator
Best trail at tiger for sure -- chunky, flowy, and you can just haul down everything on this trail. Get it!

Only approach from the road if you like suffering and hate fun. Trail climbs are always the better choice
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JackBT6G2j (Aug 19, 2022 at 20:55)
The root ball from the description seems like it is supposed to have a landing (looking at older pics,) but now that's eroded away.
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Nick1MTB (Aug 18, 2022 at 11:16)
Trail Predator
Whoa, what an awesome ride! It was a consistent challenge and all features pushed me but was still JUST inside my comfort zone. Suggest having your slow speed drop skills locked down.
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oscanuckar (Jun 26, 2022 at 15:17)
Trail Predator
Favorite trail at tiger. Definitely some features where it’s best to turn of your brain and commit.
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Jaejin0417 (Jun 20, 2022 at 22:44)
Downed tree that you need to climb over less than a quarter mile from top of the summit.

A bit wet and muddy in a few places but a blast nonetheless.
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Chardiver1 (May 22, 2022 at 10:09)
Trail Master Link
Quite the slog up but makes you feel like you earn your descent down. The forest is beautiful and there is waterfall and other water features like the rest of the park. Very beautiful trail!
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avi-rides-bikes (May 21, 2022 at 18:29)
Trail Predator
Super fun trail. A good mix of tech and flow. I would consider it a black trail with two double black features. Best way up to it is by climbing or walking up the road.
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JonathaneeeXAo (Mar 9, 2022 at 15:07)
Can anyone remind me what the story is with the dozen or so trees that are painted with the white stripe?
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KFleming509 (Mar 6, 2022 at 7:29)
Steep and a bit boring but faster than master link
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KFleming509 (Mar 6, 2022 at 7:29)
Steep and a bit boring but faster than master link
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KFleming509 (Mar 6, 2022 at 7:29)
Steep and a bit boring but faster than master link
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carlsonwa (Nov 21, 2021 at 16:42)
Connect this with side hustle for a dream flowy ride almost back to the lot. And the Iverson cut over is way less a PIA than coming back from ET.
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Ch1ck3nn (Oct 23, 2021 at 18:58)
Trail Off The Grid
Trail is in good shape. Lots of fun. Just be ready to get muddy
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remnant44 (Oct 17, 2021 at 10:54)
My new favorite trail.perfect blend of speed and some features for an intermediate rider
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muffintopz (Sep 9, 2021 at 22:34)
Trail NOTG
Hey folks, lost a Subaru car key at tiger mountain today. It is a button key with a small blue/green key fob.

My route was Master Link --> Quick Link --> NOTG --> Crossover Rd --> Bail Out --> Preston RR --> Extra Terrestrial --> back to Crossover Rd --> Predator.

If you're on these trails in the next few days/weeks and see it, shoot me a text at 802-299-9433 and I'll buy you a beer or six. Cheers fellas!!
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chunky-tech-doctor (Sep 6, 2021 at 19:46)
Trail NOTG
This trail is a notch under predator its amazing its strikingly fast for bigger chuncky trail. With alot of flow vibes and some of the best tech in tiger big drop is rollable but no need huge landing so you can break check it and let it go
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megs23 (Apr 29, 2022 at 21:12)
Trail NOTG
So the log drop is rollable? I am racing tomorrow and worried about it
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chunky-tech-doctor (Apr 29, 2022 at 21:41)
Trail NOTG
Not really but yea you can kinda roll off it but you still got drop off it you got just send it tonn of landing there
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carlsonwa (Jul 17, 2021 at 9:39)
Love love loved this fast trail with opportunities to get a bit of air time even as an advanced beginner.
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ebarnes1 (Jul 4, 2021 at 17:37)
Trail Off The Grid
Honestly kind of confused about this trail. I get that they are trying to keep all the natural features such as roots, rocks, and drops but for how popular this trail is it needs way more work. Smooth out some of the flow sections, clean up the rock lines, and this trail would definitely be a 5/5
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vitabrevis (Jul 4, 2021 at 12:14)
Trail Master Link
Well crafted climbing trail! Gets you off the road and into the forest and shade. It’s beautiful in there, and the trail rides well- engaging enough to make the climbing a part of your ride rather than just a waiting period
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vitabrevis (Jul 4, 2021 at 12:11)
Trail Predator
Love this trail, and make it a point to come ride it every time I come through the region. Proper tech that works well and comes to life as you get more comfortable with the speed available.
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vitabrevis (Jul 4, 2021 at 12:09)
Trail NOTG
Brilliant trail! I love how much of the natural terrain was maintained by creating jumpable features over drainages and not tearing out all the roots/ stumps. This is the type of trail I travel to the PNW to ride!
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nofunstravaguy (Jun 1, 2021 at 12:23)
Trail Predator
This trail is awesome! A definite double black, but not the hardest one out there by any means. Good flow with some fun steep rocky/roots drops. Ride the hardest blacks in the area to be sure this is feasible for you.
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pinkece (May 30, 2021 at 13:57)
Awesome fast trail for beginner and intermediate riders. 5 stars
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jakemannix (Apr 23, 2021 at 22:12)
Trail Predator
Review of Lower Predator only (for now) - awesome trail, tamer than EBAD, IMO. The entrance roll down from the road looks scary, but is straight, wide, and has good sight lines, and while I often get tripped up _somewhere_ on EBAD, by my third loop of lower Predator I was riding the whole thing cleanly (and I never messed up the entrance). Seems like maybe calling the lower part a different trail and dropping it to single black might be “area appropriate” (I have no problem with upper keeping its double status due to that lovely waterfall feature alone tho ;p ). The hardest features of EBAD, NOTG, and Legend are all comparable with the hardest part of lower Predator.
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taber355 (Apr 23, 2021 at 12:18)
Very fun, fast, and flowy, and is always a fun start to descending on Tiger. The trail runs great when dry.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 22:00)
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 22:00)
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 21:58)
Trail NOTG
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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BenSmo (Apr 22, 2021 at 21:57)
Trail Off The Grid
Lost my goggles on OTG, NOTG, or climbing the road from bottom of NOTG upwards. 100% goggles, black strap, black frame, clear lenses. If found please call 253-993-9020, would be greatly appreciated. Lost them on 4/22/21.
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photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:44)
Trail Off The Grid
Pretty fun trail when it's dry, but holds moisture more than others so if it's wet I'd not bother. When it's dry and fast there's plenty of room for creativity if you maintain speed.
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photodog (Feb 16, 2021 at 8:27)
Trail Predator
Legit rating on a great trail that rewards repetition. Disclaimer: If you're not comfortable riding every other tech trail in the area at speed you may want to hold off. Rode it blind when it was wet and it was a handful but still a lot of fun. Looking forward to becoming better acquainted as it's definitely a trail that rewards exacting line choices and careful application of front brakes. Many non-intiuitive inside or middle lines are the better options so if you get the chance to ride with someone that know's the trail that's pretty ideal.

Respect to getting a trail like this sanctioned
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shaggedelic (Jan 22, 2021 at 18:11)
Trail Off The Grid
I dunno about this, so over hyped felt like a waste of time. I did NOTG first and won’t be doing OTG ever again.
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yman98 (Nov 29, 2020 at 12:02)
Trail Off The Grid
Recent rework has improved the flow of the trail. Ironing out a few of the awkward sections.
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Colex796ip (Oct 14, 2020 at 11:25)
Trail NOTG
A fun trail that you can definitely find some flow, if you know it well.
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skylinecul8r (Oct 8, 2020 at 12:55)
Trail Predator
The drops with no landing are rough on a 26” bike. Trail was Definitely built with a super slack enduro rig in mind.
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adamweld (Sep 22, 2020 at 22:52)
Trail Off The Grid
Absolutely one of the best trails in Washington.
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TheRent8590 (Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56)
Trail Off The Grid
This trail is loaded with obstacles, drops, off camber roots and rock gardens. There are several drops with tricky rock placement that could easily throw you off; intermediate riders may struggle conquering them all at first.
No one cares if you think it’s a blue or black; this trail is wicked fun, just go and ride it!
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Nwilkes (Jun 16, 2020 at 22:43)
Trail Off The Grid
This is borderline XC. Black??
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jdh (Feb 3, 2021 at 14:36)
Trail Off The Grid
IMO it depends how fast you hit it. I can scare myself on this trail, or I can pick my way down. If I do the former, it's a black, esp. if I take all the side hits and try to air things. Anyone could poke their way down though, so that does make it more of a "dark" blue trail.
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CaptainBLT (Aug 9, 2021 at 10:55)
Trail Off The Grid
"Anyone could poke their way down" means it really shouldn't be black.

Especially after the trail maintenance this year, there are no mandatory gaps or drops, there is no section where you can't come to a complete stop without issue, and the trail still works just fine if you aren't able to carry speed.

Remy Metailler can find 40 foot gaps with sniper landings on blue trails in Whistler Bike Park, that doesn't make them pro lines.
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Alex217 (May 8, 2020 at 15:34)
Best route on the mtn
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chunky-tech-doctor (Mar 24, 2020 at 14:29)
Trail Predator
Did this trail for the first time last week and it is a proper double black now after years of abuse. One section in the middle alone gives this trail the red rating its unridable if you hit this trail you see what I am talking about every video I've seen people crashed there. But it was legit one of the glfunest trails I've ever done.
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2d-cutout (Nov 4, 2019 at 18:26)
Trail Predator
A trail that rewards repetition, you can ride this once (like I did), but it left me wanting to ride it at least a couple of times more. Lots of rock gardens and jumps, sometimes multiple lines. It was fun, but would be absolutely sick if I had time to learn it and ride the right lines and hit the features properly.
Can be ridden on a short travel bike, slowly, enduro bike quick, or if you really want to get SENDY, a DH bike would rule this.
As above, trail rating single black in BC - I live and ride in Whistler area.
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S4-916 (Oct 31, 2019 at 15:10)
Trail Predator
I’d call this a heavy single black, not really double black. Fun flowy trail, some steep loose bits, a few smallish drops. Maybe comparable in difficulty to Howler in Whistler.
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S4-916 (Oct 31, 2019 at 15:05)
Trail Master Link
Nice singletrack trail, not steep, technically pretty easy, nice way to get up the hill.
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Evanalmighty19 (Oct 28, 2019 at 8:49)
Trail Master Link
Much better than climbing the summit access road
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pinkece (May 30, 2021 at 13:54)
Trail Master Link
Thought I would like it a lot more than the fire road but now I'm not so sure. It's a toss up between the two for me. The fire road may be the faster way up.
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thewheelworld (Sep 5, 2019 at 20:58)
Trail NOTG
Heck yeah. A true gem added to rapidly growing options that are in the tiger/raging river area.
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tpedley (Jul 23, 2019 at 8:51)
Trail NOTG
Probably the funnest sanctioned trail (outside a park) I have ever ridden. A refreshingly natural and loose antidote to the flow trail epidemic. Goldilocks steepness that helps you keep speed but doesn’t take it too far like many fall-line trails. Most will find it much more difficult than OTG, especially if you aren’t used to this style of riding.
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quayg0n (Jul 14, 2019 at 13:57)
Trail Predator
Super sick dh trail amazing flow chunk steep gnar awesomeness
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kayakbiker (Jul 6, 2019 at 10:20)
Dcoox
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kayakbiker (Jul 6, 2019 at 10:20)
Dcoox
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kayakbiker (Jul 6, 2019 at 10:20)
Dcoox
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jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:50)
Trail Off The Grid
The top is fun and flowy, at the split I would recommend NOTG as a much more flowy and fun descent.
The bottom part of Off The Grid has little flow and is to filled with switchbacks to flat sections.
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jsnswt (Jun 25, 2019 at 13:48)
Trail Predator
Super fun trail, totally worth the climb, but I recommend climbing up the green trail and not the access road.
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dirtworship (May 17, 2019 at 22:51)
Trail Off The Grid
Super fun descent, lots of flow but also lots of smashing over roots and rocks. Top notch trail, keeps you guessing with every turn.
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marebearrr (Mar 29, 2019 at 16:34)
Trail Off The Grid
I would definitely say this is a black diamond. At least to me. Lots of obstacles. Lota of right switchbacks, rocks, roots, and drop offs. Lots of work. Fun but very challenging. Not a relaxing swooping downhill. If I were naming this trial: “relentles
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hi-dr-nick Reporter (Sep 11, 2018 at 14:21)
Trail Off The Grid
Definitely not as hard as it sounds. More of a blue/black than a true black. With that said, super fun trail that keeps things interesting throughout its entirety.
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DBoop7 (Oct 13, 2017 at 20:50)
Trail Off The Grid
Was really rainy today but was still a blast!! Lots of slippery rocks and roots though.
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GarrettTimm (Aug 2, 2017 at 10:37)
Trail Master Link
Ride up the end of the "Northwest Timber Trail" where it ends at the road for roughly 5 minutes, hang a left at the fork (there is a sign), Master Link starts there. If you go right at this point, you will not be riding a climbing trail.
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GarrettTimm (Aug 2, 2017 at 10:31)
This is the old route up to the summit, sometimes used by logging trucks and trail crews for access, take the "Master Link" climbing trail up instead.
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GarrettTimm (Aug 2, 2017 at 10:31)
This is the old route up to the summit, sometimes used by logging trucks and trail crews for access, take the "Master Link" climbing trail up instead.
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GarrettTimm (Aug 2, 2017 at 10:31)
This is the old route up to the summit, sometimes used by logging trucks and trail crews for access, take the "Master Link" climbing trail up instead.
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jayacheess (Oct 17, 2015 at 10:20)
Trail Off The Grid
This really is an amazing trail. I'd love to get down there again and ride the new Predator trail.

My only concern with the Tiger mountain riding area is the difficulty ratings seem to be a bit inflated. This trail feels squarely like an Intermediate, and nothing that I saw from POV videos makes Predator look like a double black. But maybe that's a good thing if it keeps unprepared people off the trails? shrug
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boxxerace TRAILFORKS (Jul 24, 2015 at 23:11)
Trail Off The Grid
What a fantastic trail! Wish it went all the way to the bottom.
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nsteele (Dec 23, 2014 at 22:30)
A pleasant XC ride that is a main link to the rest of the East Tiger trail system. If doing a shorter loop, then NTT will be your entrance and your exit. If doing a longer day by riding up the fire road to the East Summit, then NTT is your exit trail back to the parking lot.

Overall, NTT is rated Green, but it still has a few sections that will challenge novice riders. I've yet to see anyone successfully ride the big root ball in the uphill (East) direction. And same root ball in the downhill (West) direction back to parking lot is definitely a Blue trail feature. Roll it or drop it, and don't look down to your left! Also, the rock garden near the West end of the trail is more challenging riding uphill (heading West).
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pinkece (May 30, 2021 at 13:44)
I haven't seen anyone clear that root ball on the trail. If anyone has a video of them doing it I'd love to see. IMO it is a expert feature, definitely not blue.

Overall experience, didn't like NW Timber very much. Almost no descent/downhill sections. A lot of climbing, including very steep sections that pop of nowhere (eg. right after a rocky/rooty patch).
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  • Riding area
  • Primary Activity
    Mountain Bike
  • Difficulty rating
    Black Diamond
  • Route Type
    Loop
  • eBike Allowed
  • Bike type
    DH, AM
  • Direction
    One Direction
  • Physical rating
    Hard
  • Ridelogs
    37
More Stats for Jeszeck Loop (NOTG) mountain bike route
  • Altitude min
    1,358 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,399 ft
  • Altitude end
    1,358 ft
  • Grade
    -0.1%
  • Grade max
    -78.5%
  • Grade min
    82.6%
  • Distance climb
    5 miles
  • Distance down
    4 miles
  • Distance flat
    551 ft
Avg: 5 (1 votes)
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❄NOTG❄ - Tiger Mountain - Issaquah, Washington
❄NOTG❄ - Tiger Mountain - Issaquah, Washington
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Recent Trail Reports Along Route

statustraildateconditiondescription
NorthWest Timber
Nov 27, 2022 @ 10:59am
Nov 27, 2022
Lots of big puddles. Lots of mud.
East Tiger Summit
Nov 21, 2022 @ 8:19pm
Nov 21, 2022
Exceptional today!!!
Connector Trail
Nov 19, 2022 @ 4:46am
Nov 19, 2022
NOTG
Nov 14, 2022 @ 6:11pm
Nov 14, 2022
A little wet slushy and slidy above log drop. Hero dirt after log drop
Off The Grid
Nov 13, 2022 @ 1:15pm
Nov 13, 2022
Above the NOTG split: pretty covered. Below there, a bit slushy for a little longer then it gets reasonable.
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