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1,027 ft
Distance
-160 ft
Descent
00:02:27
Avg time
-160 ft
Altitude change
1,358 ft
Altitude min
1,518 ft
Altitude max
1,518 ft
Altitude start
1,358 ft
Altitude end
-15.6%
Grade
-33.3%
Grade max
-3.9%
Grade min
1,027 ft
Distance down
00:02:27
Avg time

Big Stupid Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • E-Bike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Mount Fromme
    North Vancouver, British Columbia
  • AKA
    Upper Skull
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Voted Difficulty
    Black Diamond (2 votes)
  • Local Popularity
    70 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 60 in E-Biking
    • 70 in Trail Running
  • Global Ranking
    #15912 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #40291 in E-Biking
    • #48709 in Trail Running
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    DH, AM
  • Direction
    Downhill Only
    Popular Direction Shown
  • Season
    Year round
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
  • TTFs on Trail
    Bridge, Drop, Jump
  • Ride in Rain
    Yes
  • Land Owner
    District of North Vancouver

After the hill on lower ladies there is a fork in the trail, Big Stupid is the right trail. The Big Stupid came into existence as an alternate route from that point where the trail forks, possibly because the option on the left—the continuation of Ladies down to the Baden-Powell and Lower Ladies—is steeper and more technical than the line on the right, but also because of the draw of the namesake of the newly-revamped trail: a massive exposed rock face with numerous lines—one of those being Big Stupid. You'll find a couple of natural kickers built into small doubles and a new ladder bridge drop.

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  • Joe Woywitka
    Builder
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Recent Activity on Trail

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  • 4 rides
  • 10.9 km average
6 Months
  • 89 rides
  • 12.1 km avg distance
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  • 1,391 rides
  • Last: Aug 31, 2026
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        Directions to big-stupid trailhead (49.353890, -123.043530)

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        youtuber Big Stupid in the North Shore, Mt Fromme,...
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        2:20 | 1686 | May 4, 2018 , North Vancouver
        youtuber The Most Famous Tech Trail is CHALLENGING!
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        10:29 | 232 | May 9, 2024 , North Vancouver
        youtuber Ladies Only and Big Stupid
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        10:46 | 163 | May 6, 2024 , North Vancouver
        Ladies Only into Big Stupid - Fromme | Sight...
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        12:00 | 277 | Mar 14, 2022 , North Vancouver

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        Frequently Asked Questions About Big Stupid

        Where is Big Stupid located?
        Big Stupid is located in Mount Fromme, North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. It is part of the Mount Fromme trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 49.35389, -123.04353.
        How hard is Big Stupid?
        Big Stupid is rated as Black Diamond difficulty. The average grade is 15.6%.
        What is the elevation gain for Big Stupid?
        The trail has 160 ft of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 1,358 ft to 1,518 ft.
        Is Big Stupid a point to point trail?
        Yes, Big Stupid is a point to point trail. The direction is Downhill Only. The trail type is singletrack.
        How long is Big Stupid?
        Big Stupid is 1,027 ft long. The trail type is singletrack.
        Are dogs allowed on Big Stupid?
        Yes, dogs are allowed on Big Stupid. Please keep dogs on a leash where required and clean up after them.
        When is the best time of year to ride Big Stupid?
        Based on activity log data, the most popular months to ride Big Stupid are:
        • July (157 activities)
        • September (117 activities)
        • May (116 activities)
        Check the reports page for current trail conditions.
        How do I access Big Stupid? Where is the closest parking trailhead?
        The closest parking and trailhead locations to Big Stupid are: View all parking locations in the area.
        How long does it take to ride Big Stupid?
        Based on recorded activities, it takes an average of 3 minutes to ride Big Stupid. The trail is 1,027 ft long. Actual times will vary based on fitness level, conditions, and pace. View recent activity logs for more details.
        How busy is Big Stupid?
        Big Stupid is a very popular trail. There have been 8,267 recorded activities on this trail. The trail has received 7,958 check-ins. View recent activity on this trail.

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