8.9 miles
Distance
1,549 ft
Climb
-1,574 ft
Descent
1,085 ft
High Point

Close to 15KM loop from Willis Pt entry down South to Craigflower Creek and back. Notables include Seven, Twister, Torpedo Run, Fun Trail and Bubble Wrap.

Detailed Description
Both Ends is a 9 mile moderately popular intermediate route located near Victoria British Columbia. This mountain bike only route. This route includes 45 trails. This route climbs 1,549 ft with a max elevation of 1,085 ft then descends -1,574 ft.
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55 Reviews & Comments

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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Oct 22, 2022 at 10:28)
Trail Crossover
They were removed by CRD as they were blocking emergency vehicle access to sofa king. The intention is to rebuild the table top off to one side…
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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Oct 22, 2022 at 10:28)
Trail Crossover
They were removed by CRD as they were blocking emergency vehicle access to sofa king. The intention is to rebuild the table top off to one side…
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eh-steve (Oct 22, 2022 at 9:54)
Trail Crossover
What happened to the tabletop and the little kicker to flat? Might need to change the description if the tabletop is removed. Seems odd to remove a feature that could easily be ridden around.
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eh-steve (Oct 22, 2022 at 9:54)
Trail Crossover
What happened to the tabletop and the little kicker to flat? Might need to change the description if the tabletop is removed. Seems odd to remove a feature that could easily be ridden around.
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seanda (Sep 5, 2022 at 12:13)
Trail Rolly Ridge
@SIMBS. This trail is blue on the trail marker but black on trail forks. No matter which way I go down it it doesn’t count as a conpletionist badge. What gives?
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seanda (Sep 5, 2022 at 12:13)
Trail Rolly Ridge
@SIMBS. This trail is blue on the trail marker but black on trail forks. No matter which way I go down it it doesn’t count as a conpletionist badge. What gives?
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renaudlafortune Sherbrooke (Apr 13, 2021 at 10:45)
Trail Ruffles
Optimal slabs Smile
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renaudlafortune Sherbrooke (Apr 13, 2021 at 10:45)
Trail Ruffles
Optimal slabs Smile
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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Apr 10, 2021 at 15:29)
Trail Lazy Line
I have marked this trail as closed, as it has now been replaced by Painless
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vi-mtb (Mar 30, 2021 at 10:53)
Never mind what I said before it’s not that hard just a bit steep at one section.
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vi-mtb (Jan 12, 2021 at 7:28)
This trail should be a black. It’s much steeper and more challenging than any of the other blues on the mountain.
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eh-steve (Jul 24, 2020 at 14:17)
Trail Ruff 'n Roll
Why was the rock feature removed and flowed out into a slope? Boring.
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eh-steve (Jul 16, 2020 at 10:59)
Trail Ruff 'n Roll
Nice little climb to get you from Ruflles (climb) to Rolly Ridge. Fun tight singletrack. Way better than taking emergency 2 to fire drill then rolly.
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eh-steve (Jun 13, 2020 at 9:02)
Trail Twister
Why did the root on the corner after twister roll get removed? That was a technical feature. You had to get your line right (especially in the rain). Now it's easy. Boo. This is supposed to be a black trail right?
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MrElFranko (Mar 16, 2020 at 18:25)
Trail Torpedo Run
Not a black, that's for sure
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eh-steve (Jun 13, 2020 at 9:14)
Trail Torpedo Run
With the mandatory drop gone it's pretty hard to argue it's black. It's a flowed out blue trail. Sofa king is more technical and has higher consequence features, but it's rated blue.
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brentmccullough (Jan 19, 2020 at 21:29)
Into The Mist?
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brentmccullough (Jan 19, 2020 at 21:29)
Into The Mist?
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brentmccullough (Jan 19, 2020 at 21:26)
Is this what they used to call Diaphragm
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eh-steve (Feb 2, 2020 at 20:28)
That's what I've heard it called, but I'm unsure if that refers to just this trail or the beginning of this and unknown1 combined.

Thanks for mapping it. Makes it easier to plan rides and I often use it to get to switchback.
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martinblostein (Nov 24, 2019 at 11:37)
Trail Bubble Wrap
I have to disagree with the last review. This is a great trail. Sure, it starts with a lot of traversing and a handful of very tricky uphill bits, but it's worth it for the views and the downhill payoff. The last half of the trail is a sustained, fun and pretty technical downhill.

Not every trail needs to be a flowy sea of golden dirt. It's not about "modern trail standards", just sounds like personal preference to me.
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martinblostein (Nov 24, 2019 at 11:37)
Trail Bubble Wrap
I have to disagree with the last review. This is a great trail. Sure, it starts with a lot of traversing and a handful of very tricky uphill bits, but it's worth it for the views and the downhill payoff. The last half of the trail is a sustained, fun and pretty technical downhill.

Not every trail needs to be a flowy sea of golden dirt. It's not about "modern trail standards", just sounds like personal preference to me.
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eh-steve (Aug 15, 2019 at 15:37)
Trail Southridge
Upper part of this trail (where it meets Dave's line) is great. The trail fairies did an awesome job. Super fun until it meets with fun trail and turns off. The rest seems a waste of elevation. Some rocky (somewhat steep) portions followed by smooth boring trail with grown in salal and weeds. Fun trail is way better, or fun trail to Sofa King if you want something a bit smoother.
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eh-steve (Aug 15, 2019 at 15:37)
Trail Southridge
Upper part of this trail (where it meets Dave's line) is great. The trail fairies did an awesome job. Super fun until it meets with fun trail and turns off. The rest seems a waste of elevation. Some rocky (somewhat steep) portions followed by smooth boring trail with grown in salal and weeds. Fun trail is way better, or fun trail to Sofa King if you want something a bit smoother.
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browett (Aug 13, 2019 at 7:12)
Trail Northridge
Upper Northridge trail there is a cedar tree very low to the ground, it hangs over the trail. if you are looking down at the trail and have a helmet on with visor, you can miss this and do a proper head injury to yourself.
I would say it is about 6 feet above the trail.
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browett (Aug 13, 2019 at 7:12)
Trail Northridge
Upper Northridge trail there is a cedar tree very low to the ground, it hangs over the trail. if you are looking down at the trail and have a helmet on with visor, you can miss this and do a proper head injury to yourself.
I would say it is about 6 feet above the trail.
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RyanMacleod (Jun 24, 2019 at 6:54)
Trail Phase Two
Bylj
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RyanMacleod (Jun 24, 2019 at 6:54)
Trail Phase Two
Bylj
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jeff06quebec (Apr 20, 2019 at 21:09)
Trail Torpedo Run
excelent trail, definitly diferent from the rest of the mountain. lot of fun jumps and burms
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dingo (Apr 20, 2018 at 16:46)
Trail Rock Bottom
Really short trail, and spits you out in an odd spot, but gosh darn it all, I really enjoy all 174 meters of this little rascal
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dirtworship (Feb 12, 2018 at 18:13)
Trail Bubble Wrap
friggin decent trail feb. 11, so many nice views, rocks, and minimal mud. best trail on the mountain if you ask me.
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dirtworship (Feb 12, 2018 at 18:13)
Trail Bubble Wrap
friggin decent trail feb. 11, so many nice views, rocks, and minimal mud. best trail on the mountain if you ask me.
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BCsaltchucker (Jan 15, 2018 at 16:45)
Trail Fun Trail
lives up to its name. nice long downhill, somewhat new school but still rough enough and need some pedalling power for a good time. rideable with 26er XC bikes too
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BCsaltchucker (Jan 15, 2018 at 16:45)
Trail Fun Trail
lives up to its name. nice long downhill, somewhat new school but still rough enough and need some pedalling power for a good time. rideable with 26er XC bikes too
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parker40 (Jan 1, 2018 at 13:38)
Trail Bubble Wrap
Happy New Year! Had a great ride on Bubble Wrap today, trail is mostly clear still a bit of snow at top but very ride-able. Cleared a lot of Arbutus branches but there is a large tree down across the trail towards the end.
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parker40 (Jan 1, 2018 at 13:38)
Trail Bubble Wrap
Happy New Year! Had a great ride on Bubble Wrap today, trail is mostly clear still a bit of snow at top but very ride-able. Cleared a lot of Arbutus branches but there is a large tree down across the trail towards the end.
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swhitey (Apr 30, 2017 at 18:46)
Trail Fun Trail
Love it! Rode it today.
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swhitey (Apr 30, 2017 at 18:46)
Trail Fun Trail
Love it! Rode it today.
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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Nov 20, 2016 at 6:22)
Looks like you are correct rossi45. 'Connector is a better name for this section of trail as Old Payoff is from Centerfold to the Regional Trail as indicated on the map. This also corresponds to the pier block trail markers in place which I verified Nov 18, 2016. Thank you for making the changes. Craig
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rossi45 (Nov 17, 2016 at 16:28)
Not sure what your comment is supposed to explain? Are you saying this is not part of Old Payoff? Or are you saying this access points I detailed are wrong? What would the name of it be? There's no name on the paper map I bought 2 years ago. Someone had already added this trail and named it OP, but I went to edit it because the GPS track was significantly errored so that's where the name came from. Open Street map also has this trail named OP. I also thought there was a marker at the top saying it is OP when I was there last weekend. Please clarify your statement. Thanks.
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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Nov 18, 2016 at 4:43)
Don't remember seeing the 'connector' when I made my comment, just the name 'old payoff' which I thought was misleading because there is more to old payoff. thanks for the info though - I will check the marker also - we have some work to do to correct little dicrepancies between maps and markers so please let me know if you come accross them. you can post here or email me directly: trails@simbs.com. craig
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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Nov 17, 2016 at 10:40)
The North end of Old Payoff is at the Regional trail. This is only part of OP. Craig SIMBS Trails C0-Director
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nicklb (Nov 22, 2014 at 20:09)
Trail Torpedo Run
really run trail
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nicklb (Dec 1, 2014 at 21:14)
Trail Torpedo Run
really fun trail
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3004 (Feb 2, 2018 at 20:52)
Trail Torpedo Run
really really fun trail
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More Stats for Both Ends mountain bike route
  • Altitude min
    473 ft
  • Altitude start
    509 ft
  • Altitude end
    482 ft
  • Grade
    -0.1%
  • Grade max
    -81.6%
  • Grade min
    36.3%
  • Distance climb
    4 miles
  • Distance down
    4 miles
  • Distance flat
    4,147 ft
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So I only crash on blues
So I only crash on blues
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Jun 18, 2022
Most of my crashes are on blues :(
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Recent Trail Reports Along Route

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Phase Two
Dec 5, 2022 @ 1:06pm
Dec 5, 2022
Snow covered but pushable
Lower Diaphragm
Dec 5, 2022 @ 12:33pm
Dec 5, 2022
Trillium
Dec 3, 2022 @ 1:38am
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Northridge
Dec 3, 2022 @ 1:38am
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Bubble Wrap
Dec 3, 2022 @ 1:38am
Dec 3, 2022
Foot of snow. Slow going. Descents provide little traction. Mostly fishtailing down long descents.
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