5.1 miles

Distance

767 ft

Climb

-774 ft

Descent

967 ft

High Point

A fun blue starter, then up to Snakes & Ladders

Detailed Description

Down and Up is a 5 mile popular expert route located near Victoria British Columbia. This mountain bike only route can be used one direction and has a hard overall physical rating. This route includes 24 trails. This route climbs 767 ft with a max elevation of 967 ft then descends -774 ft.

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South Island Mountain Bike Society (simbs.com)

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26 Reviews & Comments

Score Time Route Post Comment

seanda

(Sep 5, 2022 at 12:13)

Trail Rolly Ridge

@SIMBS. This trail is blue on the trail marker but black on trail forks. No matter which way I go down it it doesn’t count as a conpletionist badge. What gives?

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sinding (May 22, 2022 at 20:15)

Trail Skull

Caution to folks riding this down; this is the primary climbing trail for most folks using the main parking lot. There are a few blind corners which can be dangerous for folks climbing and not expecting a rider.

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renaudlafortune

Sherbrooke (Apr 13, 2021 at 10:45)

Trail Ruffles

Optimal slabs

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Bottombrackets (Jan 24, 2021 at 9:08)

Trail Regional Trail South

This access to the regional trail is not in CRD lands, it runs through private property and the trail are not maintained. Access to and from the regional trail is best from Robb Place.

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IanKopp (Aug 21, 2020 at 22:28)

Trail Snakes and Ladders

Top half has nice flowy corners and berms before more rock faces and technical features in the second half. Fantastic, classic and fun to ride in all conditions.

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eh-steve

(Jun 13, 2020 at 9:02)

Trail Twister

Why did the root on the corner after twister roll get removed? That was a technical feature. You had to get your line right (especially in the rain). Now it's easy. Boo. This is supposed to be a black trail right?

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Caribou14 (Dec 2, 2019 at 14:08)

Trail Switchback

very hard to climb this trail clean. requires a very skilled rider. but very fun if you can make it to the top.

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Caribou14 (Dec 2, 2019 at 14:06)

Trail Snakes and Ladders

best trail ever

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gregmowat

(Nov 14, 2019 at 22:20)

Trail Switchback

This is no easy way up. Very tech climb.

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RyanMacleod (Jun 24, 2019 at 6:54)

Trail Phase Two

Bylj

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bpretty (Oct 14, 2018 at 9:39)

Trail Snakes and Ladders

Thanks. Appreciated.

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Dogride

(Oct 14, 2018 at 9:11)

Trail Snakes and Ladders

Nice work on the new route! It's clear you put a lot of time into it and it is great. Thanks!

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TJPressello

(May 21, 2018 at 17:08)

Trail Little Face

Sorry don’t know why it did that ment to be emojis

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TJPressello

(May 21, 2018 at 17:07)

Trail Little Face

One of my favorites. You have to go through a litter climb to get to it but after you do that its all downhill. Would recommend this to everyone in skill level. Just remember to use both brakes????????????????

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3004 (Feb 2, 2018 at 20:51)

Trail Shock Treatment

Fun trail to ride when you are finishing up.

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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Oct 9, 2017 at 15:57)

Trail Regional Trail South

Thanks for your report - I will let the CRD know about the trees.

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skinnypete

(Oct 9, 2017 at 8:28)

Trail Regional Trail South

Don't access this trail from the south end (Lakeridge Place Road). There are plenty of large trees down across the trail and it's not suitable for riding. Best to access the area from Robb Place when coming from the south.

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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Nov 20, 2016 at 6:22)

Trail Snakes Connector

Looks like you are correct rossi45. 'Connector is a better name for this section of trail as Old Payoff is from Centerfold to the Regional Trail as indicated on the map. This also corresponds to the pier block trail markers in place which I verified Nov 18, 2016. Thank you for making the changes. Craig

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rossi45

(Nov 17, 2016 at 16:28)

Trail Snakes Connector

Not sure what your comment is supposed to explain? Are you saying this is not part of Old Payoff? Or are you saying this access points I detailed are wrong? What would the name of it be? There's no name on the paper map I bought 2 years ago. Someone had already added this trail and named it OP, but I went to edit it because the GPS track was significantly errored so that's where the name came from. Open Street map also has this trail named OP. I also thought there was a marker at the top saying it is OP when I was there last weekend. Please clarify your statement. Thanks.

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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Nov 18, 2016 at 4:43)

Trail Snakes Connector

Don't remember seeing the 'connector' when I made my comment, just the name 'old payoff' which I thought was misleading because there is more to old payoff. thanks for the info though - I will check the marker also - we have some work to do to correct little dicrepancies between maps and markers so please let me know if you come accross them. you can post here or email me directly: [email protected]. craig

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SIMBSTrailsDirector SIMBS (Nov 17, 2016 at 10:40)

Trail Snakes Connector

The North end of Old Payoff is at the Regional trail. This is only part of OP. Craig SIMBS Trails C0-Director

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GBangShredder (Jan 26, 2021 at 20:12)

Trail Skull

Skull and Torpedo are the only two modern intermediate flow trails at Hartland.

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Dubnyk

TRAILFORKS (Jan 26, 2021 at 22:04)

Trail Skull

Sofa King...?

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Papillomas

(May 14, 2019 at 19:40)

Trail Skull

More of a downhill flow trail with all the new berms. Shouldn't be listed as a climbing trail. Also, not black diamond anymore after the re-route

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islandforlife

(Jul 16, 2019 at 14:34)

Trail Skull

Actually a great climbing trail... climb up it almost every-time I ride now. But agree, it's blue now.... miss the old gnar at the end.

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dergnarwhale (Feb 21, 2021 at 6:50)

Trail Skull

Although Skull trail can be ridden down, it is definitely a climbing trail. This relatively new trail mostly replaces the original Skull trail that was a challenging janky mess at times. Making Hartland more accessible to the masses, this trail offers a nice warm up bringing you to the regional trail and more choices to start your ride.

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Trails in Route

	Skull				659 ft
	Shock Treatment				3,842 ft
	Phase Two				187 ft
	Waterworks				761 ft
	Twister				2,103 ft
	Old Payoff				1,165 ft
	Harem Scarem				200 ft
	Switchback				2,493 ft
	Snakes and Ladders				3,698 ft
	Regional Trail South				2,031 ft
	Inventive				1,119 ft
	Fire Drill				102 ft
	Little Face				873 ft
	Wild Stallion				689 ft
	Rolly Ridge				1,677 ft
	Emergency One				184 ft
	Emergency Two				253 ft
	New Little Face Trail				531 ft
	Ruffles				1,473 ft
	Second Ave to Regional Connector				187 ft
	Snakes Connector				548 ft
	Regional Trail Link				262 ft

Details

Riding area

Hartland Mountain Bike Park
Primary Activity

Mountain Bike
Difficulty rating

Black Diamond
Route Type

Loop
Bike type

AM
Direction

One Direction
Physical rating

Hard
Ridelogs

201

More Stats for Down and Up mountain bike route

Altitude min

417 ft
Altitude start

499 ft
Altitude end

495 ft
Grade

-0%
Grade max

-42.3%
Grade min

31.2%
Distance climb

2 miles
Distance down

2 miles
Distance flat

5,230 ft

status	trail	date	condition	description
	Ruffles	Mar 18, 2023 @ 2:01pm Mar 18, 2023
	Emergency Two	Mar 18, 2023 @ 2:00pm Mar 18, 2023
	Inventive	Mar 18, 2023 @ 1:59pm Mar 18, 2023
	Skull	Mar 18, 2023 @ 1:59pm Mar 18, 2023
	Shock Treatment	Mar 17, 2023 @ 12:41am Mar 17, 2023

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