This trail is permanently closed/decommissioned
more stats
909 ft
Distance
-244 ft
Descent
00:02:22
Avg time
-244 ft
Altitude change
1,321 ft
Altitude min
1,565 ft
Altitude max
1,565 ft
Altitude start
1,322 ft
Altitude end
-26.9%
Grade
-56.2%
Grade max
-7.6%
Grade min
909 ft
Distance down
00:02:22
Avg time

38 DD Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • E-Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Mount Fromme
    North Vancouver, British Columbia
  • AKA
    32 DD, 33 DD, 36 DD
  • Difficulty Rating
    Black Diamond Rate
  • Voted Difficulty
    Double Black Diamond (3 votes)
  • Local Popularity
    55 in Mountain Biking heatmap [+]
    • 45 in E-Biking
    • 20 in Trail Running
    • 45 in Hiking
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    DH
  • Direction
    Downhill Primary
    Popular Direction Shown
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
    Yes
  • TTFs on Trail
    Drop, Jump

An old decommissioned line that starts with a drop off a rock face. An alternate entrance can be found another 20m up the access road

Access Info

off the mountain highway

Tags
DropsJumps

Local Trail Association

Traditionally Indigenous Territory

Recent Activity on Trail

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6 Months
  • 21 rides
  • 13 miles avg distance
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  • 358 rides
  • Last: Oct 31, 2026
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38 DD Trail Reports

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Mar 1, 2022 @ 11:31am
Mar 1, 2022
Apr 5, 2020 @ 4:43pm
Apr 5, 2020
Sep 18, 2019 @ 10:15am
Sep 18, 2019
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Jul 21, 2019 @ 4:05pm
Jul 21, 2019
Mar 22, 2019 @ 12:06pm
Mar 22, 2019
Large tree down across trail, blocking trail
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Status:
on Mar 1, 2022
Prevalent Mud
Avg: 3.24 (6 votes)
Your vote: 0

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      Directions to 38-dd trailhead (49.363110, -123.043180)
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      3:34 | 2505 | Feb 23, 2013 , North Vancouver

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      3 ★ 17%
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      1 Review & Comments

      Wishiwasbikingrn
      Yet another trail I think deserves to be recommissioned and rebuilt

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      Frequently Asked Questions

      ▼ Where is 38 DD located?
      38 DD is located in Mount Fromme, North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. It is part of the Mount Fromme trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 49.36311, -123.04318.
      ▼ How hard is 38 DD?
      38 DD is rated as Black Diamond difficulty. The average grade is 26.9%.
      ▼ What is the elevation gain for 38 DD?
      The trail has 244 ft of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 1,321 ft to 1,565 ft.
      ▼ Is 38 DD a point to point trail?
      38 DD is not a point to point trail. The direction is Downhill Primary. The trail type is singletrack.
      ▼ How long is 38 DD?
      38 DD is 909 ft long. The trail type is singletrack.
      ▼ Are dogs allowed on 38 DD?
      Yes, dogs are allowed on 38 DD. Please keep dogs on a leash where required and clean up after them.
      ▼ How do I access 38 DD? Where is the closest parking trailhead?
      The closest parking and trailhead locations to 38 DD are: View all parking locations in the area.
      ▼ How long does it take to ride 38 DD?
      Based on recorded activities, it takes an average of 2 minutes to ride 38 DD. The trail is 909 ft long. Actual times will vary based on fitness level, conditions, and pace. View recent activity logs for more details.
      ▼ How busy is 38 DD?
      38 DD is a moderately popular trail. There have been 1,544 recorded activities on this trail. The trail has received 2,015 check-ins. View recent activity on this trail.

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