4,498 ft
Distance
68 ft
Climb
-365 ft
Descent
00:11:59
Avg time
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Forever After Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Mount Seymour
    North Vancouver, British Columbia
  • Difficulty Rating
  • Voted Difficulty
    Black Diamond (12 votes)
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    AM
  • Direction
    Downhill Only
    Popular direction shown
  • Physical Rating
    Hard
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • Global Ranking
    #208 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #428 in Trail Running
    • #3341 in Hiking
  • Local Popularity
    90 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 85 in Trail Running
    • 75 in Hiking
  • Land Manager
    Metro Vancouver

Described as mostly blue with a couple 'black diamond' moves, this is primarily a downhill XC trail complete with climbs, some pedalling and a downhill section at the end with rock faces, berms, some high speed and even an optional drop. Going through some stunningly lush micro valleys, this trail was primarily built with efforts by the NSMBA. Continue straight across Bridle Path into the High School League trail, another NSMBA project, to feel the full power of the FLOW

The name is a combination in tribute to the Trails Forever Fund, from which funding was derived to complete the project, and the utilization of existing portions of Aftertaste.

Local Trail Association
More Stats for Forever After mountain bike trail trail
  • Altitude change
    -298 ft
  • Altitude min
    733 ft
  • Altitude max
    1,031 ft
  • Altitude start
    1,031 ft
  • Altitude end
    733 ft
  • Grade
    -6.615%
  • Grade max
    -58.021%
  • Grade min
    31.691%
  • Distance climb
    676 ft
  • Distance down
    3,168 ft
  • Distance flat
    654 ft
  • Avg time
    00:11:59
  • Avg reverse time
    00:40:34
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Status:
on Sep 24, 2021
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Avg: 4.1 (63 votes)

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Trail Conditions
  • Unknown
  • Snow Groomed
  • Snow Packed
  • Snow Covered
  • Freeze/thaw Cycle
  • Icy
  • Prevalent Mud
  • Wet
  • Variable
  • Ideal
  • Dry
  • Very Dry
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      Forever After Trail Reports

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      Sep 24, 2021 @ 11:27pm
      Sep 24, 2021
      Pretty dry for most of the trail but some rock features toward the bottom were wet and muddy.
      Sep 23, 2021 @ 2:28pm
      Sep 23, 2021
      Sep 16, 2021 @ 1:33pm
      Sep 16, 2021
      Sep 10, 2021 @ 8:23am
      Sep 10, 2021
      Tree cleared. New gold installed. Running great.
      Sep 6, 2021 @ 12:24pm
      Sep 6, 2021
      Big tree down. Requires chainsaw.
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      Recent Ridelog Activity on Trail

      Past Week
      • 40 rides
      • 7 miles avg distance
      6 Months
      • 1,601 rides
      • 9 miles avg distance
      All
      • 9,529 rides
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      Trail Lists

      Trail Events

      12 Reviews & Comments

      • + 2
      Shokunin (Sep 11, 2017 at 20:06)
       I'm new to the shore, but this trail was so hard for a blue. Even compared to some other blues in the area.
      [Reply]
      • + 3
      paulbc (Sep 11, 2017 at 20:26)
       You're not the only one who thinks that. Last summer, there was a piece of tape on the entrance sign, right under the word "Harder", that said "...than any other blue trail". Call it navy blue.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      Shokunin (Sep 13, 2017 at 20:07)
       Good to know I'm not the only one Smile The trail looks a lot more mellow in that video from 2014 too.
      [Reply]
      • + 3
      WilliamCornock (Mar 4, 2018 at 14:33)
       Was just up there yesterday and it had a black diamond on the sign. They must have changed it quite recently.
      [Reply]
      • + 4
      jalee (Mar 13, 2019 at 23:21)
       Such a good trail. Has the most diversity of the trails I routinely ride on the shore. Mixed technical XC and all mountain. It’s a blast through beautiful forest. I would say a must ride after Dale’s, in addition to Pangor my other favourite on Seymour
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      ataraxie (Jun 9, 2019 at 22:30)
       Forever After is my favorite trail on Seymour! I like how it's mostly downhill with a few XC sections in between. It makes it seem a loong ride! I think it deserves the black rating. It's harder than other black ones like Corkskrew in my opinion.
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      jjanetka (Aug 30, 2019 at 20:21)
       Great trail. Nice ride from 2nd switchback parking lot from Corkscrew to Mushroom to Dales to Forever. Yes, probably deserves the black - a few spots are a little tricky if you are going slower (I'm sure the faster just float over this rough stuff). Not a flashy trail but still a good ride.
      [Reply]
      • + 0
      0ut5ide (Nov 24, 2019 at 17:00)
       Nice conditions today. Good grip on the rocks. Just a few puddles.
      [Reply]
      • - 2
      Dukechillington (Jun 29, 2020 at 22:48)
       Awesome trail! Less busy then other areas and super fun on an e-bike with it’s XC flow. Rode on a wet day after almost dying on Dales (no, seriously!) thinking Forever After would be more of the same but was pleasantly surprised!
      [Reply]
      • + 3
      kyleluvsdh (Feb 11, 2021 at 22:30)
       We should really adopt the New Zealand trail grading system in Canada. It bridges the gap nicely between between 'hard blue's' and 'easy black's'. Windrock Bike Park, TN. Adopted the NZ grading system in the past year as well. It makes sense. Here's what it would look like:

      NZ Trail Grading System:

      Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
      Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
      Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
      Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
      Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
      Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
      Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
      [Reply]
      • + 1
      Kazuaki (Aug 19, 2021 at 18:33)
       I’d rate it a dark blue on the downhill parts. And full black on the uphill parts. I gotta get better at climbing!
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