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4,800 ft
Distance
12 ft
Climb
-393 ft
Descent
00:12:03
Avg time
-382 ft
Altitude change
656 ft
Altitude min
1,037 ft
Altitude max
1,037 ft
Altitude start
656 ft
Altitude end
-7.9%
Grade
-35.2%
Grade max
7.9%
Grade min
292 ft
Distance climb
3,225 ft
Distance down
1,283 ft
Distance flat
00:12:03
Avg time

Forever After Details

  • Activities
    • Mountain Bike
    • E-Bike
    • Hike
    • Trail Running
  • Riding Area
    Mount Seymour
    North Vancouver, British Columbia
  • Difficulty Rating
    Black Diamond Rate
  • Voted Difficulty
    Black Diamond (18 votes)
  • Local Popularity
    85 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • 80 in E-Biking
    • 80 in Trail Running
    • 75 in Hiking
  • Global Ranking
    #650 in Mountain Biking [+]
    • #2017 in E-Biking
    • #299 in Trail Running
    • #1678 in Hiking
  • Trail Type
    Singletrack
  • Bike Type
    AM
  • Direction
    Downhill Only
    Popular Direction Shown
  • Physical Rating
    Hard
  • Dogs Allowed
    Yes
  • eBike Allowed
    Yes up to Class 1
  • Land Owner
    Metro Vancouver

Described as mostly blue with a couple 'black diamond' moves, this is primarily a downhill XC trail complete with climbs, some pedalling and a downhill section at the end with rock faces, berms, some high speed and even an optional drop. Going through some stunningly lush micro valleys, this trail was primarily built with efforts by the NSMBA. Continue straight across Bridle Path into the High School League trail, another NSMBA project, to feel the full power of the FLOW

The name is a combination in tribute to the Trails Forever Fund, from which funding was derived to complete the project, and the utilization of existing portions of Aftertaste.

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Local Trail Association
Traditionally Indigenous Territory

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  • 9 miles average
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        Directions to forever-after trailhead (49.339820, -122.985040)
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        youtuber Forever After - Mount Seymour - North Shore MTB
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        6:33 | 1060 | Feb 4, 2022 , North Vancouver
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        5:42 | 259 | Jan 20, 2025 , North Vancouver
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        13:33 | 342 | May 26, 2024 , North Vancouver

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        1147
        Dales, Forever After, High School - Intermediate/Advanced Mountain Bike Route
        ★ 4.3 • 4 miles • 1,099 ft • 22 • Loop •
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        3809
        North Shore 100
        ★ 5.0 • 61 miles • 9,228 ft • 77 • Loop •
        NOW REPLACED WITH A BETTER VERSION AFTER A TEST RIDE...
        1612
        Taste the Spring MT. Seymour
        ★ 5.0 • 7 miles • 1,966 ft • 25 • Loop •
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        Trail Events

        (2) past events on this trail

        Trail Products

        4.1 ★★★★★
        77 Ratings
        5 ★ 43%
        4 ★ 35%
        3 ★ 14%
        2 ★ 5%
        1 ★ 3%

        12 Reviews & Comments

        Kazuaki
        I’d rate it a dark blue on the downhill parts. And full black on the uphill parts. I gotta get better at climbing!
        kyleluvsdh kyleluvsdh
        We should really adopt the New Zealand trail grading system in Canada. It bridges the gap nicely between between 'hard blue's' and 'easy black's'. Windrock Bike Park, TN. Adopted the NZ grading system in the past year as well. It makes sense. Here's what it would look like:

        NZ Trail Grading System:

        Grade 1 - White (Easiest)
        Grade 2 - Green (Easy)
        Grade 3 - Blue (Intermediate)
        Grade 4 - Dark Blue (Advanced)
        Grade 5 - Black (Expert)
        Grade 6 - Double Black (Extreme)
        Grade 7 - Pro Line (Extremely Dangerous)
        Dukechillington
        Awesome trail! Less busy then other areas and super fun on an e-bike with it’s XC flow. Rode on a wet day after almost dying on Dales (no, seriously!) thinking Forever After would be more of the same but was pleasantly surprised!

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        Frequently Asked Questions

        ▼ Where is Forever After located?
        Forever After is located in Mount Seymour, North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. It is part of the Mount Seymour trail network. The trailhead is located at coordinates 49.33982, -122.98504.
        ▼ How hard is Forever After?
        Forever After is rated as Black Diamond difficulty. The physical rating is Hard. The average grade is 7.9%.
        ▼ What is the elevation gain for Forever After?
        Forever After has 4 m of elevation gain. The trail has 120 m of elevation descent. The elevation ranges from 200 m to 316 m.
        ▼ Is Forever After a point to point trail?
        Yes, Forever After is a point to point trail. The direction is Downhill Only. The trail type is singletrack.
        ▼ How long is Forever After?
        Forever After is 1.5 km long. The trail type is singletrack.
        ▼ Are dogs allowed on Forever After?
        Yes, dogs are allowed on Forever After. Please keep dogs on a leash where required and clean up after them.
        ▼ How do I access Forever After? Where is the closest parking trailhead?
        The closest parking and trailhead locations to Forever After are: View all parking locations in the area.
        ▼ How long does it take to ride Forever After?
        Based on recorded activities, it takes an average of 12 minutes to ride Forever After. The trail is 1.5 km long. Actual times will vary based on fitness level, conditions, and pace. View recent activity logs for more details.
        ▼ How busy is Forever After?
        Forever After is a very popular trail. There have been 22,511 recorded activities on this trail. The trail has received 21,117 check-ins. View recent activity on this trail.

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